V (2010)

[Jason P. Thompson]

ABCs new motto: "If you came here for some active story progression than FUCK YOU."

This show and Flash Forward are perfect examples of why I really wish shows were pitched with an expiration date. But that's never going to happen....

[Louris]

Originally Posted by Feral Akodon

I might had become a little impatient over the last two years but the shows that premiered this season are the epitome of slow burn.

It's not just that they're slow burns; slow burns are fine. It's that they're slow burns completely devoid of interesting characters or interesting writing. On even the slowest Lost episode there is someone compelling doing something interesting, even if it's just the b story. This lacks even that. As I said in the Flash Forward thread, Ricky Jay's forty seconds of screen time are the single most interesting character presence on that show so far, and not by a slim margin either.

[Rene (Mr.Eko)]

Very true. Today's Lost rewatch article episode "Left Behind" was one that had yet another boring Kate flashback, but the present day stuff, especially the Sawyer B-story makes it watchable.

Since they replaced the showrunner, I'm assuming they're going to punch up the action in the remaining 9 episodes.

[Arjen Rudd]

This show should be a slam dunk. Like, if there's someone out there creative enough to make something out of a fairly esoteric and mind-trippy premise like Lost, there ought to be someone able to take a concept as simple as alien lizards invading earth in disguise and make something that, even if it's not great, is entertaining and fun. Damn V.

[Richard Dickson]

The V 5th columnists continue to be the only remotely compelling thing on the show. Even if this whole "reconnection" thing smacks even more strongly of the Cylons than was hinted at at the end of last week's show.

[Jack Dnim]

Not to get all Brodie in Mallrats on everyone here, but you know the most intriguing question the show has made me ponder? Do the lizards have similar genitals? I mean if the one lizard is having sex with his fiance, what exactly is that artifice of skin wrapped around? Is it completley prostethic in nature? And if the news reporter bangs queen of the lizards what exactly will be going on down there on her end? The mind boggles...

[Richard Dickson]

"Every time we get together, they find us! Which is why I came to see you...."

And of COURSE Hot V is Anna's daughter.

[The Humungus]

OK, I'll admit it ain't the most original series to come down the pike (or come down the pipe as my illiterate cousin loves to say), but I'm enjoying this remake. The little blonde V being Anna's daughter is not shocking, but she sure looked good in bra and panties. One plot hole (yes, I understand there are many) I see is that if there are so many traitor V's living amongst us, why doesn't one just take off it's skin and show itself, that would pretty much expose the conspiracy right then and there. Holes aside, I still find it entertaining, so hopefully the ratings don't plummet too much over this week and next and we at least get a full season.

[Nabster]

I guess because they do not want to give up the lives they are living on Earth. I imagine that is the point of their traitorous actions, they'd rather live on Earth in their current lives, exposing themselves would be counter productive to their aims. Its a decent show, although it does have this weird Flashforward vibe, although I think that show is much worse.

[avoideverything]

Fuck. I wasn't going to watch tonight's episode but I got home early from the dentist and...

I'm sold. The plastic laminate on the V uniforms are transmitters transmitting information in a big jumble into a room where anyone can just wander into and someone who doesn't know the technology can instantly and comprehensively access.

My post 9/11 blinders fell off and it was 1985 all over again. Fuck it. I'm ProV now.

[The Humungus]

But they know the true intentions of their own species is to eliminate us, so their lives they are living on Earth are dependent on the status quo, which no longer exists, so to expose themselves now, would be the smart move, to get all humans united against the V's is all I'm saying.

[neoolong]

Yes, because the people of Earth are going to be that subtle in their distinctions about aliens.

Just like everyone did with the Muslims. Oooh, topical.

[Hammerhead]

I'll never look at a Members Only logo the same way again.

P.S. "I'm sorry for your loss. But the way your husband went out was BAD ASS."

P.P.S. Fake Assassin looked like Will Forte.

P.P.P.S. Camera looking down Mitchell's shirt right when she said "This is our best view of the area."

[Nabster]

Originally Posted by neoolong

Yes, because the people of Earth are going to be that subtle in their distinctions about aliens.

Just like everyone did with the Muslims. Oooh, topical.

Yea exactly, they may want to remain in their current lives but they don't have a deathwish. Its funny you mention that a Seik friend of mine got so much shit in America post 9/11, people would always yell shit at him, and he'd frequently be turned away from night clubs, he even got his ass beaten once.

[Hammerhead]

I can buy the aliens speaking English to each other for narrative expediency, but referring to themselves as "Vs"? Come on.

[Moltisanti]

They traveled all those light years just to reenact SLIVER.

[neoolong]

Laura Vandervoort in her undies and Elizabeth Mitchell in short shorts are keeping me here. Yeah, I'm that shallow.

Seriously though, the 5th column subplot is the only compelling part of this so far. Looks like next week is promising though.

[avoideverything]

It'll disappoint, I'm sure. But, to quote Anna: Blink... blink blink.

[gobblox]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

I can buy the aliens speaking English to each other for narrative expediency, but referring to themselves as "Vs"? Come on.

Yeah, I had a laugh as I pondered this aloud with my roomate last night. You damn aliens don't have your own name for yourselves? Why the hell are you latching on to the term "V"? I don't remember the aliens telling the humans to call them that.

Originally Posted by Jack Dnim

Not to get all Brodie in Mallrats on everyone here, but you know the most intriguing question the show has made me ponder? Do the lizards have similar genitals? I mean if the one lizard is having sex with his fiance, what exactly is that artifice of skin wrapped around? Is it completley prostethic in nature? And if the news reporter bangs queen of the lizards what exactly will be going on down there on her end? The mind boggles...

Ok, glad I'm not the only one who wonders about this.

I'm definitely watching next week... that chain reaction explosion in the previews looks fantastic, and reminds me of the ridiculous sequential explosion from the end of Quantum of Solace.

[Richard Dickson]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

I can buy the aliens speaking English to each other for narrative expediency, but referring to themselves as "Vs"? Come on.

And having doors in their headquarters with English names on them.

[Jackson]

I'm confused about the whole concept of calling the aliens "V's" anyway.
Is it shorthand, because saying "visitor" is so inconvenient? is it disparaging? Is it a wierd cooincidence that in the alien's native tongue that is what they call their people? Or is it some stupid idea one of the writers thought was trendy?

[Richard Dickson]

ABC is planning on copyrighting the letter V.

[Judas Booth]

Originally Posted by gobblox

Yeah, I had a laugh as I pondered this aloud with my roomate last night. You damn aliens don't have your own name for yourselves? Why the hell are you latching on to the term "V"? I don't remember the aliens telling the humans to call them that.

If you were going to infiltrate another society and really try and blend in with it, you'd adopt all of their mannerisms, accents, and slang. In order to maintain your facade, you'd want to maintain a 100% commitment to those characteristics 100% of the time (even when amongst your own kind) so that you never risk accidentally dropping 'character' at the wrong time.

[Jackson]

Originally Posted by Jack Dnim

Not to get all Brodie in Mallrats on everyone here, but you know the most intriguing question the show has made me ponder? Do the lizards have similar genitals? I mean if the one lizard is having sex with his fiance, what exactly is that artifice of skin wrapped around? Is it completley prostethic in nature? And if the news reporter bangs queen of the lizards what exactly will be going on down there on her end? The mind boggles...

Maybe she just really gets down on the idea of a biforcated hemi-penis.

[Barkatthemoon]

I stopped watching. Shame I missed Vanderpoon in her undies though.

Yeah, the lizard cocks always puzzled me. Even on the original show.

[Jack Dnim]

Do you think the V's shuffled the red head out to combat the image that they are all attractive?

I did roll my eyes a bit when the kid thought the obvious answer to having a girl in your bedroom was to disrobe before you go out to face your mother. At least the girl taking off her V uniform made sense.

[Phil]

Wow, some really shitty virtual set compositing this week.

Hey, has anyone bitched about how the motherships are shaped like reptile heads in the past 6 pages? Because that's fucking retarded also.

Goddamn, this has been boring. I can see girls in their underwear online, or in my neighbor's windows.

[neoolong]

Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon

I stopped watching. Shame I missed Vanderpoon in her undies though.

Don't say I never did anything(NSFW advertising on that site) for you.

[Hammerhead]

Originally Posted by Phil

Hey, has anyone bitched about how the motherships are shaped like reptile heads in the past 6 pages? Because that's fucking retarded also.

I hadn't put that together. It's relatively clever, actually.

Now, where did VanderVoom get that fancy lingerie? Given the aliens' sartorial tendencies I suppose it could have been standard issue. Maybe "V" stands for Versace?

(edit) Hmm, actually it wasn't all that fancy (Thanks for the link, Neo). Just my memory embellishing the moment...

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

I hadn't put that together. It's relatively clever, actually.

Isn't it just fucking dopey/obvious? This is clever (and also dopey and obvious):

[Hammerhead]

Relatively.

[Jack Dnim]

So, if the series had managed to last to a full season would we have gotten the shocking reveal that the daughter is actually a part of the resistence?

[Farsight]

Originally Posted by Jackson

Is it a wierd cooincidence that in the alien's native tongue that is what they call their people? Or is it some stupid idea one of the writers thought was trendy?

The most likely explanation is sloppy writing.

But I'm in a forgiving mood, so I will point out that the lizard who called them "Vs" did turn out to be a rebel. So his using an outsider's term for the invaders could have been a natural slip on his part.

Hell, it's even possible that the terms "Visitors" and "Vs" were coined by their own sleeper agents to control what the aliens would be referred to, thus they may have been using the terms for decades. It would fit in with their focus on public opinion to make sure no random newscaster got everyone to start calling them something derogatory like "Mannequins" or "Maybe Lizards" or "Oakland Raiders".

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Now, where did VanderVoom get that fancy lingerie?

The Vs really do have excellent underwear technology. And excellent underwear-filling technology.

Of all the scifi questions they've left unasked, the main one that bothers me is that no one addressed the statistical improbability of an alien race looking exactly like us. I know many humans are egotistical enough to find that normal, but everyone? The closest they came to discussing it was Scott Wolf asking if there were any ugly Vs, but it was hard to tell if he was asking from a place of intelligence or vapidness... which I guess is a question about his character in general.

Originally Posted by Jack Dnim

So, if the series had managed to last to a full season would we have gotten the shocking reveal that the daughter is actually a part of the resistence?

So far, it's still scheduled to last a full season. 9 more episodes next year. And while the ratings have trended downward, they're still quite good. It's pretty likely all 13 will air.

I'm enjoying it. The second episode was sluggish, but I like the actors, don't dislike the characters (need more character moments to decide on most of them), and the plot has me interested to see where it goes. That's not a huge endorsement I know, but it's the best I can say about any show that's premiered this year...

[neoolong]

The fact that the next episode has an explosion is enough to get me excited is telling. About this show and me as a person.

I loathe me as a TV watcher.

[gobblox]

I love that the jackets have these awesome apparently tiny well hidden high def live-streaming cameras but the crazy hovering spike firing probe apparently did not have this technology and, as mentioned before, takes the shittiest pictures imaginable.

Man... think of how much porn you could load up at the same time in that one room on the V's ship.