The Best of BOND; Let's get this over with

[ForsakenNoMore]

Originally Posted by SAIRUS

Well I've always thought that Live and Let Die should be vaguely be the back drop of the next film.

Have Mr Big (change the name in the film) be a person who launders money to terrorists possibly smuggeling them out. His assistant Solitare (also change the name) could be one of those human lie detectors and it goes from there. Bond investigates, fucks around, gets captured, huge explosion (by a planted bomb by Bond of course), movie done.

I'd end the movie revealing the head of Quantum to be... ...(Vesper very much alive, and yes I do have a way to explain it)

Originally Posted by Tati

Please, never write a screenplay.

Originally Posted by Abbott & Prospero

Please, never write a screenplay.

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: QoS BEING A FAVORABLE MOVIE

I understand Bond is a hero to many - but that doesn't mean we can call it like it is. I just couldn't see any stand alone characteristics to make this stand out. The Bond series was the originator so-to-speak and now the franchise is regulated to look at the likes of Bourne for inspiration. Sad and funny at the same time.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Malmordo

Damn skippy on the "foolish" bit. Why the hell would anyone want to remake OCTOPUSSY? The script is tailored so specifically to Moore and his I'm-just-going-to-walk-my-bloody-way-right-through-this-thing-martini-in-hand sense of humor that its silly attempt at a story would utterly fail with Craig going through the motions. A lot of you already think it failed with Moore.

And LALD? Forget that, too. The original's great, enough folks chimed in to defend it 300 pages ago, why are you even seriously considering a redo? The Kotto Death Dummy stays, thank you very much.

Again, I think the best ones to remake depart from the source material in pretty dramatic ways. So MOONRAKER, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

I think he meant the basic plot of OCTOPUSSY might make for a good update. Agree with you big time on MOONRAKER being the obvious correct answer though.

[History Buff]

Why would Moonraker be a good candiate for a remake? It worked in the late 70s with the advent of the Shuttle program and the space race still a hot button issue, but now it would feel totally out of place. Plus as much as enjoy this and most of Moore's flicks, the last 30 minutes of the movie are absolutely laughable.

[duke fleed]

History Buff, Forget about remaking...Moonraker. It is time, that 007,...Got his Ass to Mars. It could be a race with either China or Russia, to set up a space base, on the...Communist, uhh...Red Planet!

[Sharpel007]

There suggesting it follows Moonraker the book, not the movie, the book has nothing to do with space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonraker_%28novel%29

[duke fleed]

Sharpel007, Thank You for clearing that up.

[Phil]

But Die Another Day sort of ganked that plot. Which kills me; Moonraker is my favorite Bond book.

[Luscious Python]

Originally Posted by Phil

But Die Another Day sort of ganked that plot. Which kills me; Moonraker is my favorite Bond book.

Yup. Some elements from the book went to GoldenEye too with the scarred villain being a traitor to his country, targeting London with the weapon, the Bond girl reprograming it to throw it off course, ect. I think Toby Stephens would have made an excellent Drax (without the daddy issues and horrible lines).

[Phil]

I found a banged up copy of Ian Fleming's Thrilling Cities last week. I'm looking forward to seeing a snobby asshole Brit's idea of the "shady side" of various cities around the globe.

[Paul McCartney]

Originally Posted by Luscious Python

I think Toby Stephens would have made an excellent Drax (without the daddy issues and horrible lines).

Billy Connolly was apparently their first choice to play Gustav Graves, and he'd make a SIMPLY SPLENDID book version of Hugo Drax. I mean, DIE ANOTHER DAY still would've sucked, but they were on the right track at least for a little while.

[ForsakenNoMore]

RE: DIE ANOTHER DAY

One of the most retarded villians was Rick Yune's Zao character. I mean dude was just stupid and each time he was screen: HE SUCKED! The face off with Pierce in the souped-up cars at the end was funny as hell.

Of Note: I met Rick Yune in person at party and guy is the biggest douche of a no alphabet list actor ever. His date was a 6 foot Black girl with a huge fro. He asked if I seen any of his movies (told him he killed it in THE FAST & FURIOUS) and he asked what I thought of his villain role in DAD, I gave him straight-talk - thus prompting him to stop talking w/ me rest of the night. His Black date kept smiling at me, maybe that prompted it too.

[Luscious Python]

Bond may get flack for taking notes from Bourne but at least they're no longer riffing THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQDS...eature=related

Note: The guy who edited DAD (Christian Wagner, who worked with Michael Bay) eventually went onto work on FAST AND FURIOUS.

[PsycheOut00]

Originally Posted by Malmordo

Damn skippy on the "foolish" bit. Why the hell would anyone want to remake OCTOPUSSY? The script is tailored so specifically to Moore and his I'm-just-going-to-walk-my-bloody-way-right-through-this-thing-martini-in-hand sense of humor that its silly attempt at a story would utterly fail with Craig going through the motions. A lot of you already think it failed with Moore.

And LALD? Forget that, too. The original's great, enough folks chimed in to defend it 300 pages ago, why are you even seriously considering a redo? The Kotto Death Dummy stays, thank you very much.

Again, I think the best ones to remake depart from the source material in pretty dramatic ways. So MOONRAKER, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, and THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

As Fat Elvis says, my idea wasn't remaking it per se bit by bit, but rather use it as a template for another story. Of course the source material doesn't make for much, but I always thought colonel Smythe's story was a great starting point for a story and one of the brighter bits of the movie (Moore's performance included). As I said, it's not about Craig escaping death in a clown suit, but rather using stuff like 009's assassination, the jewels' smuggling plot, India -a former british colony with a huge contrast between extreme luxury and absolute poverty- as a backdrop, and the movie's 2nd half, a really tight race-around-the clock story that, idiotic stuff aside, still totally works for me (I particularly love Orlov's pathetic death). So they wanted a lighter, equally exotic Bond outside the confines of the Quantum plot? Why not this?

Of course, you can always go with stuff like TMWTGG's Bond duelling his evil döppelganger (too small scale?), TSWLM's Bond joining forces with his counterpart (too buddy-movie?) or YOLT - The Novel's amnesia thing (too Bourne... again?), but let our imagination roam a little bit further than, yes, the obvious choice Moonraker.

[Phil]

(too small scale?)

As we learned in QoS, when Bond risked life and limb to keep Bolivia's utility rates reasonable, small-scale isn't a problem.

[PsycheOut00]

Come to think of it, you're right. Fuckers didn't have a Solex Agitator(TM) to make things EPIC-SCALE though.

Goddamn Third World...

[Sharpel007]

Well where else are you going to insert your third world fetish for funny hats and Western guilt complex , while inadvertently killing low level secretarial mi6 girls?????

[ForsakenNoMore]

RE: BOND 23

Well, EON and gang are off to a proper start w/ hiring screenwriter, Peter Morgan. It shall be interesting whom shall be directing. I hope that Purvis and Wade are off to a firing squad somewhere. I was sure DAD would be their last gig.

[History Buff]

Yeah, keep them the hell away from the next film.

[PsycheOut00]

Why? They also had a hand in CR and QoS. Were these also bad scripts? Don't we still know around here why do they keep being hired for nowadays?

As Phil once said a few pages ago, Autumn in the Bond Thread... That's why I suggest we all keep stupidly theorizing about what previous movie remake would make for a cool Bond 23 (and in today's installment: The World Is Not Enough, with proper sound FX and competently directed action scenes).

[Luscious Python]

RE: REMAKING BOND

On Her Majesty's Secret Service. At least we'd have a competent lead this time.

[PsycheOut00]

Problem: how'd you resolve Tracy's death without audiences going "agaaaain?!!!"?

Just remember the next movie might be a standalone ep. with no trace of Quantum.

[Luscious Python]

I didn't think of the previous two. In a perfect world Dalton would have starred in OHMSS followed by YOLT.

[Phil]

I say keep the tropes and spirit of Fleming but stop trying to cram this Bond run into those plots. The best stuff in Casino Royale didn't come from the book, honestly.

I like the idea of more "Bondian" villains, but my favorite "villain" in the franchise was the weirdo triumvirate in FRWL, so I don't need an evil mastermind. But if Craig's run has a major weak spot, so far it's been that no villain's really been up to snuff. It'd be cool to see him go up against a really well-defined bad guy who is also not Al Pacino.

[mcnooj82]

As a total Bond novice, I drool at the thought of Craig's Bond going up against a villain like Hans Landa. Not a 'top of the organization' villain, but a dude that just loves his job and is turned on by the challenge Bond offers.

[PsycheOut00]

I'm absolutely sure Christoph Waltz will get the EON call sometime sooner or later. If he hasn't already, that is.

That said, I thought LeChiffre was just a perfectly rounded villain as it comes. Vain, pathetic, cunning, threatening, weak... and yes, totally turned on by Bond's challenge. He might not've been top-brass, but he certainly was more memorable than, say, Graves or Renard*. Problem was Mr.White might've been seen as the true villain of the piece or the fact that his demise wasn't as spectacular (see also Greene), but I thought Mikkelsen was one of the highlights of CR.

* Elektra, on the other hand...

[mcnooj82]

LeChiffre went great with the new direction that CR took. But after QoS dropped the ball in the villainy department (aside from a couple good moments between Greene and Bond), I demand reparations! Hehehe

[Phil]

Yeah, I'm talking more the one-two punch of LeChiffre and Guy Who Was A Lot Like LeChiffre But Less Interesting. Plus two unspectacular villain deaths in a row.

[Ratty]

Yeah, I think I'm also ready for a more over-the-top Bond villian within the Craigiverse.

[Abbott & Prospero]

I'd like to see Amalric given another chance as a Bond villain. I was so excited when I heard he was cast in QOS. What a waste. Maybe Greene had a more interesting twin brother.

[mcnooj82]

A twin bro that turns out to be... GOOD ALL ALONG!

Sorry.

[Abbott & Prospero]

Nah, he's a clone. Er, eviler clone. And Strawberry Fields is cloned for the next one as well. Basically, I want the next film to make up for wasting Amalric and Gemma Arterton. So a film where Arterton is the main Bond girl and Alamric plays an actual interesting villain with a truly grandiose scheme.

Originally Posted by Abbott & Prospero

Nah, he's a clone. Er, eviler clone. And Strawberry Fields is cloned for the next one as well. Basically, I want the next film to make up for wasting Amalric and Gemma Arterton. So a film where Arterton is the main Bond girl and Alamric plays an actual interesting villain with a truly grandiose scheme.

Please, never write a screenplay.

[mcnooj82]

QoS reboot by Martin Campbell!!! The man needs reinvention in order to come back aboard, right? Perfect!

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I wouldn't mind, I suppose. But several people around here seem to be warming up to the movie at home.

Not I, though.

[Abbott & Prospero]

I mentioned the other day that I don't hate the film. I just find that there's a lot of wasted potential in it. I think they found a perfect sparring partner for Bond with Arterton's Agent Fields, and an equally perfect actor to play a Bond villain. They just frustratingly didn't do anything with them.

[History Buff]

I'd second that about QofS. It was looks great, and the action certainly is top-notch but it just doesn't all seem to go together. Its really just a bundled mess. Who's to blame: the director, I say.

[Luscious Python]

I blame the writers strike and the rushed production. Had the film been given the time, it might have come off more polished than it turned out to be.

[Phil]

Daily Mail Horseshit:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/...n-bond-blofeld

[Ratty]

Originally Posted by Phil

Daily Mail Horseshit:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/...n-bond-blofeld

They certainly could do worse, I suppose.

[Tati]

Bond fighting a werewolf. Not bad.

[Paul755]

Originally Posted by Luscious Python

In a perfect world Dalton would have starred in OHMSS followed by YOLT.

In a perfect world (assuming the movies stayed in the order they are in now) Connery would have stayed through OHMSS and Diamonds. With Moore still taking over with LALD.

[Fat Elvis]

Live And Let Die would have been awesome with Connery.

Would OHMSS have worked better with Moore?

Hrrrrmmmmmm.

[Ratty]

Originally Posted by Tati

Bond fighting a werewolf. Not bad.

FullMoonraker!

[Paul McCartney]

I maintain that Moore would have been good in OHMSS. He would have been a riot during the Sir Hilary Bray "pretending to be a fag" sequences, and would have been young enough to pull off the action scenes and some of the more serious material.

Of course, Connery would have done all that and then some. But this is one of the most agonizing trains of throught in altera-movie history, so I'll stop now.

[Paul McCartney]

Oh, and that Michael Sheen story is from June, and Frost/Nixon sucked.

[ForsakenNoMore]

My fantasy casting for James Bond:

Oliver Reed: One needs to watch THE ASSASSINATION BUREAU. His swag alone murdered Connery in all of his Bond outings.

Ian McShane: Game Over on these hoes.

James Purefoy: He would've KILLED IT!

Colin Salmon: If a Negro can become President of the United States - then got-damn it, England can have its first Black Negro Bond.

Naveen Andrews: To piss off the cracker-ass fans.

Who art thou disagree?

[Luscious Python]

Originally Posted by Phil

Daily Mail Horseshit:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/...n-bond-blofeld

The Blofeld rumors will never stop will they?

Originally Posted by ForsakenNoMore

My fantasy casting for James Bond:

Oliver Reed: One needs to watch THE ASSASSINATION BUREAU. His swag alone murdered Connery in all of his Bond outings.

Ian McShane: Game Over on these hoes.

James Purefoy: He would've KILLED IT!

Colin Salmon: If a Negro can become President of the United States - then got-damn it, England can have its first Black Negro Bond.

Naveen Andrews: To piss off the cracker-ass fans.

Who art thou disagree?

Naveen Andrews FTW.

[PsycheOut00]

Originally Posted by Luscious Python

I blame the writers strike and the rushed production. Had the film been given the time, it might have come off more polished than it turned out to be.

Yes. Though weirdly enough for such big pictures, EON always seem to rush production and post in a mere ten months before release, considering they start shooting in January and have a locked picture by mid-late October to open in November as has been the case with the last 6 flicks (well, kinda – Tomorrow Never Dies opened on a Dec.19th vs.Titanic, and QoS last year on Oct.31 in the UK, IIRC). That puts them in a truly shitty situation when they have such a fucked up shooting such as TND’s or a minor setback like the Writer’s Strike.

That said, it wasn’t Forster to blame at all, since he’s been objectively the best director this franchise has ever had. Not the most adequate or capable arguably, but his work (re: from the actors’ direction to the shots composition and framing to many, many great choices in post) is in general outstanding considering the probable constraints of such production. In fact, the more I think of it, the more I like his bold choices in editing with such a minimalistic approach –check out how no reaction shot gets uncovered... and how these fleshen out most of the waffer-thin characters-, so much parallel cutting –it’s not only the Tosca scene, the buildup to every setpiece is tremendous- and the general flow of the picture. Yup, he’s probably out of the series forever, but I say we might look back fondly at The Scarf-wearing One sometime in the future.

Originally Posted by Tati

Bond fighting a werewolf. Not bad.

And a vampire. Never forget. NEVER FORGET.

[PsycheOut00]

Mufuckin' double-post...

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[Luscious Python]

Daily Mail (UK) - November 8, 2009



Bond girl Eva Green insists she’s ‘not confident’ about her body – but you might beg to differ, given her latest sultry photoshoot.

The 29-year-old seemed to show no inhibitions when she posed naked for the latest edition of style bible Tatler, recreating a classic Seventies portrait of British actress Charlotte Rampling.

Sitting on a polished antique table in front of an ornately gilded mirror, the Casino Royale star has only a glass of wine for company as she mimics erotic photographer Helmut Newton’s 1973 memorable image.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz0WDtoHH17

She gets more than two thumbs up from me.

[mcnooj82]

Such a foolish woman.

Such... a... gorgeous, gorgeous... foolish woman.

How dare she lack confidence!?

[Ratty]

Eva Green is arguably the hottest Bond girl ever. Maybe because she's one of the few Bond girls that actually had a character to play.