A Movie I Will Love for the Rest of My Life: BRAZIL

[DJEvil]

The library here at Full Sail is small, but it's got a helluva punch. Highlights: Edward Scissorhands, Godfather 1 & 2, etc., etc....

...And a 2-disk Criterion Collection edition of Brazil. One of my classes had been cancelled for the day, so I decided to pick Brazil up and take a look (Blofeld had raved about it before, I believe).

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, MAKE IT THE NEXT MOVIE YOU SEE. It's one of those movies you refer to as: The Good Stuff, or ya know, maybe The Best Movie I've Ever Seen.

If I ever make it to the big leagues, I can only hope to be half as good as Terry Gilliam.

*SPOILER*
I think what did it for me was the ending. During his "escape," I was desperate for this to be reality. I needed this to be reality as badly as he did. So, in a way, I was satisfied with the very end of it. It is now his reality, and I hope he never wakes up from it. In the same respect, it is an absolutely horrible (not bad, as in, this is horror, terror) ending.

[DJEvil]

The library here at Full Sail is small, but it's got a helluva punch. Highlights: Edward Scissorhands, Godfather 1 & 2, etc., etc....

...And a 2-disk Criterion Collection edition of Brazil. One of my classes had been cancelled for the day, so I decided to pick Brazil up and take a look (Blofeld had raved about it before, I believe).

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, MAKE IT THE NEXT MOVIE YOU SEE. It's one of those movies you refer to as: The Good Stuff, or ya know, maybe The Best Movie I've Ever Seen.

If I ever make it to the big leagues, I can only hope to be half as good as Terry Gilliam.

*SPOILER*
I think what did it for me was the ending. During his "escape," I was desperate for this to be reality. I needed this to be reality as badly as he did. So, in a way, I was satisfied with the very end of it. It is now his reality, and I hope he never wakes up from it. In the same respect, it is an absolutely horrible (not bad, as in, this is horror, terror) ending.

[Quatermass: The Return]

You'll make it, kid. I've been to the future and trust me, you make it.

And you're right. It's the ending that seals the deal. That look on his face says it all...

[Quatermass: The Return]

You'll make it, kid. I've been to the future and trust me, you make it.

And you're right. It's the ending that seals the deal. That look on his face says it all...

[DJEvil]

*SPOILER*

Man oh man, the movie just shot into 6th gear at his kidnapping. Cut to black, gunshots, the slots in the bag open up, you see the interviews, then he's in the interrogation/torture room bit.

From the moment you see Michael Palin walk out in the far far distance, you know who it is already. You just know it. You know who that is behind the mask and you don't know how to feel about that.

[DJEvil]

*SPOILER*

Man oh man, the movie just shot into 6th gear at his kidnapping. Cut to black, gunshots, the slots in the bag open up, you see the interviews, then he's in the interrogation/torture room bit.

From the moment you see Michael Palin walk out in the far far distance, you know who it is already. You just know it. You know who that is behind the mask and you don't know how to feel about that.

[Nick Nunziata]

Ahhhhh, to be able to see BRAZIL for the first time...

DJ, it is among the very best.

[Nick Nunziata]

Ahhhhh, to be able to see BRAZIL for the first time...

DJ, it is among the very best.

[Poxy Von Sinister]

It wasn't my number two pick in the movie draft for nothing!

Seriously, I love the dream sequences, especially the samurai. And the ending is brilliant.

It's truly one of the visionary films of all time.

[Poxy Von Sinister]

It wasn't my number two pick in the movie draft for nothing!

Seriously, I love the dream sequences, especially the samurai. And the ending is brilliant.

It's truly one of the visionary films of all time.

[Imperator GAC]

I've never seen it and now I'm interested. Can anyone tell me more about the story to pique my interest just a little bit more?

[Imperator GAC]

I've never seen it and now I'm interested. Can anyone tell me more about the story to pique my interest just a little bit more?

[flint]

It's 1984 on acid.

[flint]

It's 1984 on acid.

[Xymog]

Imperator:

It's a dystopian film that explores one man's attempt to break free from the system. To say any more would ruin the enjoyment. Go. See. Love.

--Xymog

[Xymog]

Imperator:

It's a dystopian film that explores one man's attempt to break free from the system. To say any more would ruin the enjoyment. Go. See. Love.

--Xymog

[D_B_Cooper]

This has been one of my favorite films since it was released theatrically. It's Gilliam's best, as well as one of better movies out there. You can't go wrong with Gilliam at all, in my opinion. But if you had to pick one of his movies to love, this should be it.

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[D_B_Cooper]

This has been one of my favorite films since it was released theatrically. It's Gilliam's best, as well as one of better movies out there. You can't go wrong with Gilliam at all, in my opinion. But if you had to pick one of his movies to love, this should be it.

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[DJEvil]

Well, Imperator...

The obvious: It's a Terry Gilliam film. From that, you can expect: HUGE sets, brilliant camera work, and dark, angry (quirky) Python humor. Michael Palin is PERFECT in his role, which isn't goofy, isn't over-blown, just...perfect. Robert DeNiro plays a bit part, which you hardly ever see ('cept Jackie Brown, I think).

So far as the story goes:

It's about flights of fantasy. And the nightmare of reality. Terrorist bombings. And late night shopping. True Love. And creative plumbing.

Anything else?

[DJEvil]

Well, Imperator...

The obvious: It's a Terry Gilliam film. From that, you can expect: HUGE sets, brilliant camera work, and dark, angry (quirky) Python humor. Michael Palin is PERFECT in his role, which isn't goofy, isn't over-blown, just...perfect. Robert DeNiro plays a bit part, which you hardly ever see ('cept Jackie Brown, I think).

So far as the story goes:

It's about flights of fantasy. And the nightmare of reality. Terrorist bombings. And late night shopping. True Love. And creative plumbing.

Anything else?

[kronos]

I want a winged armor hero suit of my very own. That way I can swoop down upon unsuspecting politicians an whack 'em on the dome.

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[kronos]

I want a winged armor hero suit of my very own. That way I can swoop down upon unsuspecting politicians an whack 'em on the dome.

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[MoriartyAICN]

Depending what day you ask me, and what mood I'm in, either this film or LAWRENCE OF ARABIA is my favorite movie of all time.

You're right about the ending being the thing that really pushes it over the top. When I realized that in some truly sick Terry Gilliam way, that was a "happy ending," I fell in love. I sat there in the theater, gobsmacked, as the credits rolled. Then I walked outside, bought another ticket, and went right back in for the next show.

Nice to see it get mentioned and discussed.

[MoriartyAICN]

Depending what day you ask me, and what mood I'm in, either this film or LAWRENCE OF ARABIA is my favorite movie of all time.

You're right about the ending being the thing that really pushes it over the top. When I realized that in some truly sick Terry Gilliam way, that was a "happy ending," I fell in love. I sat there in the theater, gobsmacked, as the credits rolled. Then I walked outside, bought another ticket, and went right back in for the next show.

Nice to see it get mentioned and discussed.

[Poxy Von Sinister]

I never got the chance to see Brazil in the theater -- Orlando was pretty ass-backward back then -- but when I saw it on video, I did the same thing, rewound it and watched it again immediately. There's just too much to take in in one viewing, so many little background details that are just perfect.

[Poxy Von Sinister]

I never got the chance to see Brazil in the theater -- Orlando was pretty ass-backward back then -- but when I saw it on video, I did the same thing, rewound it and watched it again immediately. There's just too much to take in in one viewing, so many little background details that are just perfect.

[Poxy Von Sinister]

BTW, DJ, does that set have the studio approved "Love Conquers All" edit? I've never seen it but I'd love to hear an opinion on it.

[Poxy Von Sinister]

BTW, DJ, does that set have the studio approved "Love Conquers All" edit? I've never seen it but I'd love to hear an opinion on it.

[Nick Nunziata]

Poxy, the set has EVERYTHING. Three discs of something that would kick Hitler's ass.

[Nick Nunziata]

Poxy, the set has EVERYTHING. Three discs of something that would kick Hitler's ass.

[DJEvil]

Looking at the boxes now...

Letterboxed...
Remastered soundtrack...
What Is Brazil? documentary...
The Battle of Brazil: A Video History...
Production notebook:
Stoppard and McKeown walk-through of three drafts and three treatments...
Production designs...
Costume Designer stuff...
Storyboards for dream sequences (many of which didn't make it into the film)...
Michael Kamen explains the score...
Special effects with raw footage of unfinished effects...
Trailer...
Production and publicity stills...

Guess not. It's been said that Gillian was so dissappointed by Kim Griest's performance that he cut a lot of her stuff out of the film...Is that something like what you refer to? Or something?

[Innocent X]

Lawrence is getting a lot of pub lately.

[DJEvil]

Looking at the boxes now...

Letterboxed...
Remastered soundtrack...
What Is Brazil? documentary...
The Battle of Brazil: A Video History...
Production notebook:
Stoppard and McKeown walk-through of three drafts and three treatments...
Production designs...
Costume Designer stuff...
Storyboards for dream sequences (many of which didn't make it into the film)...
Michael Kamen explains the score...
Special effects with raw footage of unfinished effects...
Trailer...
Production and publicity stills...

Guess not. It's been said that Gillian was so dissappointed by Kim Griest's performance that he cut a lot of her stuff out of the film...Is that something like what you refer to? Or something?

[Innocent X]

Lawrence is getting a lot of pub lately.

[Eddie5]

And Eva's as well.

[DJEvil]

You mean there's a THIRD disk I missed?

Dammit.

Remember: Don't suspect a friend - Report him.

[Eddie5]

And Eva's as well.

[DJEvil]

You mean there's a THIRD disk I missed?

Dammit.

Remember: Don't suspect a friend - Report him.

[Poxy Von Sinister]

DJ, the three-disc set Nick refers to contains the edit of the film Lew Wasserman wanted to release because he thought it was "better" than Gilliam's. It basically ends about two minutes before Gilliam's does, so the twist at the end is completely gone, as are all the dream sequences. Hmm, a film about the power of imagination with all the imagination cut out, yeah, that'll work. You know, sometimes I really begrudge Spielberg for saving that ass Wasserman's job with Jaws.

[Poxy Von Sinister]

DJ, the three-disc set Nick refers to contains the edit of the film Lew Wasserman wanted to release because he thought it was "better" than Gilliam's. It basically ends about two minutes before Gilliam's does, so the twist at the end is completely gone, as are all the dream sequences. Hmm, a film about the power of imagination with all the imagination cut out, yeah, that'll work. You know, sometimes I really begrudge Spielberg for saving that ass Wasserman's job with Jaws.

[DJEvil]

Watching The Battle of Brazil now. Am being brought up to speed.

Remember: Regret nothing - Report everything.

[DJEvil]

Watching The Battle of Brazil now. Am being brought up to speed.

Remember: Regret nothing - Report everything.

[Xymog]

Loose talk is noose talk.

[Xymog]

Loose talk is noose talk.

[raoul duke]

I've got the 3-disc Brazil set on order and it should be arriving sometime next week, I'm so happy I can hardly contain myself!

I think this is truly a marvelous movie. Great sets, acting, scripts, camerawork. Fear and Loathing beats it out of my top Gilliam spot, yet this is certainly a close second.

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[raoul duke]

I've got the 3-disc Brazil set on order and it should be arriving sometime next week, I'm so happy I can hardly contain myself!

I think this is truly a marvelous movie. Great sets, acting, scripts, camerawork. Fear and Loathing beats it out of my top Gilliam spot, yet this is certainly a close second.

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[Jacks Inner Rage]

I like Terry Gillam, but i saw Fear & Loathing and Time Bandits and didn't like them, so i became non interested in Brazil, plus my brother told me it sucked. But if you say its good, then i will rent it next time im out!

[Jacks Inner Rage]

I like Terry Gillam, but i saw Fear & Loathing and Time Bandits and didn't like them, so i became non interested in Brazil, plus my brother told me it sucked. But if you say its good, then i will rent it next time im out!

[yt]

A great flick. No question.

[yt]

A great flick. No question.

[BlackCrowe]

Didn't like Time Bandits OR Fear and Loathing?
HEATHEN!


Raoul, get the duct tape!

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[BlackCrowe]

Didn't like Time Bandits OR Fear and Loathing?
HEATHEN!


Raoul, get the duct tape!

[This message has been edited by BlackCrowe (edited 04-07-2001).]

[raoul duke]

Jack, no more of that talk or I'll put the leeches on you.

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[raoul duke]

Jack, no more of that talk or I'll put the leeches on you.

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[General Logan]

This film was amazing. Sorry to chime in so late. If it wasn't for BlackCrowe, I might never have seen it. Not just that, but the full behind the scenes stuff as well.

Deej, where the hell are you? Oh, and also, yes it is a painful, bittersweet ending. Sometimes the best films turn the formula on its ear. It's not always going to leave you with a lighthearted feeling of joy, but a deep sense of... emotion.

Wonderful film.

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[General Logan]

This film was amazing. Sorry to chime in so late. If it wasn't for BlackCrowe, I might never have seen it. Not just that, but the full behind the scenes stuff as well.

Deej, where the hell are you? Oh, and also, yes it is a painful, bittersweet ending. Sometimes the best films turn the formula on its ear. It's not always going to leave you with a lighthearted feeling of joy, but a deep sense of... emotion.

Wonderful film.

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[D_B_Cooper]

In other words, Brazil is the feel-good movie of the millenium!

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[D_B_Cooper]

In other words, Brazil is the feel-good movie of the millenium!

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[DJEvil]

Damn straight.

[DJEvil]

Damn straight.

[grabass]

'Brazil' is greatness.

...and the blame for the "Love Conquers All" version belongs squarely on Sid Sheinberg's shoulders, not Wasserman.

[grabass]

'Brazil' is greatness.

...and the blame for the "Love Conquers All" version belongs squarely on Sid Sheinberg's shoulders, not Wasserman.

[Blofeld]

Brazil is a bottle of perfection from which to sip the rest of your days.

The 3-disc Criterion is a must have addition to your DVD collection.

Welcome to the larger world, DJ.

[Blofeld]

Brazil is a bottle of perfection from which to sip the rest of your days.

The 3-disc Criterion is a must have addition to your DVD collection.

Welcome to the larger world, DJ.

[Blofeld]

The "Love Conquers All" version is 94-minutes long. Gilliam's cut is 142-minutes. Much more than just the last two minutes missing ...

[Blofeld]

The "Love Conquers All" version is 94-minutes long. Gilliam's cut is 142-minutes. Much more than just the last two minutes missing ...

[Szagreus]

Aw, Time Bandits IS weak. It's probably because of this weakness that Gilliam has been re-making Time Bandits through his whole career. Baron Munchausen, anyone?
Granted, Baron Munchausen didn't have a whole lot of dwarfs in it, but it did feature that hairy comedian.
Brazil is really more Walter Mitty than 1984, It's dystopian, but in the way corny late 30's musicals are dystopian. Brazil didn't have that hairy comedian in it, but it did have the Mario Bros. getting killed by poop.
Five Stars!!!!!!

[Szagreus]

Aw, Time Bandits IS weak. It's probably because of this weakness that Gilliam has been re-making Time Bandits through his whole career. Baron Munchausen, anyone?
Granted, Baron Munchausen didn't have a whole lot of dwarfs in it, but it did feature that hairy comedian.
Brazil is really more Walter Mitty than 1984, It's dystopian, but in the way corny late 30's musicals are dystopian. Brazil didn't have that hairy comedian in it, but it did have the Mario Bros. getting killed by poop.
Five Stars!!!!!!

[Blofeld]

Just how are Twelve Monkeys, The Fisher King, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Brazil, even The Adventures of Baron Munchausen "remakes" of Time Bandits?

And, didn't you know that Time Bandits, Baron Munchausen and Brazil are thematically linked into what some consider Gilliam's trilogy? These films explore the nature of fantasy and reality, and all that...

I don't like Time Bandits much, but I think Baron is a damn fine film.

I have Brazil and Twelve Monkeys on DVD. Baron is the next to go in my sack.

[Blofeld]

Just how are Twelve Monkeys, The Fisher King, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Brazil, even The Adventures of Baron Munchausen "remakes" of Time Bandits?

And, didn't you know that Time Bandits, Baron Munchausen and Brazil are thematically linked into what some consider Gilliam's trilogy? These films explore the nature of fantasy and reality, and all that...

I don't like Time Bandits much, but I think Baron is a damn fine film.

I have Brazil and Twelve Monkeys on DVD. Baron is the next to go in my sack.

[Szagreus]

Humbly, Time Bandits has no friggin' plot and was made for a dime; but it does have great symbolism and imagery - almost all of which finds a way to return in a more understandable, relevant and expensive way in Baron Munchausen.
I wouldn't go so far as to posit the existance of a Gilliamverse, trilogy, or whatever. I would say that in Time Bandits, there were a lot of ambitious ideas that got more fully realized in the later films.
That's all.

[Szagreus]

Humbly, Time Bandits has no friggin' plot and was made for a dime; but it does have great symbolism and imagery - almost all of which finds a way to return in a more understandable, relevant and expensive way in Baron Munchausen.
I wouldn't go so far as to posit the existance of a Gilliamverse, trilogy, or whatever. I would say that in Time Bandits, there were a lot of ambitious ideas that got more fully realized in the later films.
That's all.

[Blofeld]

Ok. Thanks for clarifying.

[Blofeld]

Ok. Thanks for clarifying.

[Blofeld]

Others "posit the existance" of the trilogy. There's even a name for it (that escapes me at the moment).

[Blofeld]

Others "posit the existance" of the trilogy. There's even a name for it (that escapes me at the moment).

[Spike Marshall]

I was gonna make a new thread, but I guess I shall just resurrect this 5 year old thread...

Anyways I just watched Brazil all the way through for the first time last night. Absolutley adored it absured and nightmarish and with such a powerful ending.

I remember trying to watch the film when I first got into Gilliam's films after I saw Twelve Monkeys, when I was 13 or so. I got through Time Bandits, Munchausen even the bleedin' Fisher King but I remember watching Brazil as a kid and not knowing what to make of it. Promptly switching it off after 20 minutes...what a mistake.

Love, love, love the film.

[Spike Marshall]

I was gonna make a new thread, but I guess I shall just resurrect this 5 year old thread...

Anyways I just watched Brazil all the way through for the first time last night. Absolutley adored it absured and nightmarish and with such a powerful ending.

I remember trying to watch the film when I first got into Gilliam's films after I saw Twelve Monkeys, when I was 13 or so. I got through Time Bandits, Munchausen even the bleedin' Fisher King but I remember watching Brazil as a kid and not knowing what to make of it. Promptly switching it off after 20 minutes...what a mistake.

Love, love, love the film.

[OCallaghan]

Best ever, for me.
I wish I could do the Eternal Sunshine thing and wipe my memory of seeing this film so i could see it for the first time on a big screen, not a cheap shitty TV as was the case.
Love it to pieces. Haven't seen it in a year...better get for the weekend...thanks Spike!

[The Wine Drinking Critic]

I've read THE BATTLE OF BRAZIL. That BRAZIL lost best picture to OUT OF AFRICA is insulting.