Great Gay movie villains [Archive]

The LD

05-12-2005, 06:15 PM

Anyone ever seen Dennis Rodman's "Simon Sez"? The villian in that piece of work was the gayest thing since gay came to Gaytown. Credit to Master Shake on that last sentence.

Although, I'm not sure he was "great", as I'm fairly sure that if I ran into him on the street, I'd crack him one right across the fucking jaw for his terrible work in that movie.

Geoff Foster

05-12-2005, 06:17 PM

Mason Verger?

Scratch

05-12-2005, 06:19 PM

Cheap shots aren't welcome here, Scratch.
What? This place is built on a foundation of cheap shots. And HTML.

Geoff Foster

05-12-2005, 06:20 PM

What? This place is built on a foundation of cheap shots. And HTML.

That doesn't mean we should all fall in like sheep.

Richard Dickson

05-12-2005, 06:34 PM

Wez in The Road Warrior

Matt Goldberg

05-12-2005, 06:50 PM

Peter Lorre in Maltese Falcon

Justin Clark

05-12-2005, 07:19 PM

Col Frank Fitts, American Beauty

Andrew O.

05-12-2005, 07:49 PM

General Zod

Chris Allen

05-12-2005, 08:14 PM

C'mon. Look at this guy. Sheesh.

http://fffrenzy.mcmadi.com/images/bennet.gif

Lestat

Dr. Frank N. Furter

Questionable:

Hans Gruber?

His brother, Simon, definitely Bi.

Scar

robotpals

05-12-2005, 08:53 PM

Magneto in X-Men and X2.

C'mon, Eric. No one's buying that "You have no idea" about Mystique in part 2! Can she morph into a beard?

Seriously, Magneto was gay. And it only added to the character.

Barkatthemoon

05-12-2005, 08:55 PM

Richard B. Riddick- Pitchblack

MattCG

05-12-2005, 09:03 PM

Any gay stereotypical serial killer. They're all so cute and they dress their kills really well. Buffalo Bill's arrangement of the dead woman in the tub? I on't know how you get mold to grow in patterns like that, but talk about serialtastic! Also, they reinforce the stereotype, that all gay people are violent perverts and that in turn reinforces the mystique of the gay community. It helps in the long run that everyone in America who isn't gay or sympathetic (89.9% by the way.) to think that gay people are deviant, pedophile, serial killers who were molested by our mothers and possibly our fathers too. Also, the co-belief that while the gay community is out preying on the normals like a bunch of well-dressed cannibals, that they all have some sort of small animal conceled in their rectums. And let's face it, with the constant mainstreaming of all things gay, the straights need to be reminded that gays are capable of killing people just as well as they do and they arrange the crime scenes to the height of crime scene chic!

In short, gay villains rock! And they're totally patriotic, because we all know that by being gay, they're helping the terrorists win.

(PS: Fuck gay villains. I've never seen a good one in my life.)

Kriegaffe

05-12-2005, 09:09 PM

This one is a little obscure, but the guy from Ninja Scroll who had the electric rope/wire. And there was that love triangle between him, the chick who made things (like people) explode and the big bad guy who could regenerate.

Sharpel007

05-12-2005, 09:45 PM

just becuse your british and male doesnt mean your gay, jeesh

tcjsavannah

05-12-2005, 10:05 PM

The Alcalde from "Zorro: The Gay Blade"

wadew1

05-12-2005, 11:33 PM

Yeah BENNET is definitely gay, that's not even up for debate.
He clearly cums in his pants when he gets to take on Ahnuld at the end.

Steve Byron

05-12-2005, 11:41 PM

Sorry, but I want to select two:

John Dall, Rope

Taylor Negron, The Last Boy Scout

Anakin's Dad

05-13-2005, 12:44 AM

How could it be that noone has mentioned the gayest movie villain ever...

Buffalo Bill..

Woman suit..come on!

Tim N.

05-13-2005, 12:59 AM

James Gandolfini's bad guy character in The Mexican.

Gay Gandolfini wins every time.

Anderson

05-13-2005, 01:11 AM

I can't believe I forgot Buffalo Bill.

Chris Hill

05-13-2005, 01:30 AM

How about Baron Harkonen from Dune. Seemed like he had the hots for his nephew.

Nexus-6

05-13-2005, 04:34 AM

Yeah BENNET is definitely gay, that's not even up for debate.
He clearly cums in his pants when he gets to take on Ahnuld at the end.
"Come on Bennet... you don't want to shoot me... you want to cut me, WITH A KNIFE!" *Bennet loses control*

Some one above mentioned Lestat. I was going to post this myself, along with Banderas' character, but I'm not sure if they're really "gay" or not. I mean there's certainly a lot of "gay" stuff going on in that movie, but that might just be due to how vampires are very sexual beings in a way, and most of the characters happen to be male. I think all the vampires in "Interview With the Vampire" have been around so long that gay and straight have no meaning anymore, and I'm not even sure if sex does. I mean you can tell that Lestat "wants" Pitt, and so does Banderas, but I'm not so sure it's a gay thing, even though on the surface it's super gay. If anything, I guess they're bi, but the only real turn-on for them is blood, no matter if it's a man or woman's blood.
I can't remember character names aside from Lestat, it's been a while since I've seen "Interview", I could be way off. Hell, I could be way off from Anne Rice's intention, or Neil Jordan's, but that's what I got from the movie.

Lee Harvey Cobblepot

05-13-2005, 08:56 AM

Taylor Negron, The Last Boy Scout
This thread would be nothing without Milo.
"Can we do a formal introduction here?"

But Gay Gandolfini also wins.

hostiledm

05-13-2005, 09:06 AM

I would have to agree with the 'Ninja Scroll' dude,

and not that he was a villin, but the gay-est thing Ive seen in a movie, was that guy 'comming out' in the second 'nightmare on elm street'. Have you seen that recently?

robotpals

05-13-2005, 10:00 AM

How about Baron Harkonen from Dune. Seemed like he had the hots for his nephew.

Ack! How could I forget the Baron? If you never the read the book (or saw the miniseries), then you might have missed that the Baron is most definitely gay. AND one of the best villains ever! The actor who played him in the miniseries was the best part.

DaveB

05-13-2005, 10:13 AM

If I recall correctly, in the Vampire books, it's clear that, whether they're gay or straight, none of the proper equipment is in working condition for sex, as they're basically a bunch of corpses. As far as attraction goes, they all seem to be pretty open, although Rice (whom you've got to assume is an aging fag hag) focuses a bit more on the man-on-man attraction. Aside from the relationship Louis has with Claudia, who has the somewhat twisted distinction of being both a childlike object of sexual attraction and a stand-in for Rice's own deceased daughter.

(The books aren't very good, in retrospect, but I seem to have retained a weird amount of information from them. I can scarcely remember a damn thing about the Aeneid or The Grapes of Wrath or even Huckleberry Finn, but I somehow know that the little girl vampire is named Claudia. Fuck you, Anne Rice, for taking up valuable brain space.)

Also, I'm not sure if crazy, wannabe pre-op transexuals can really count as "gay."

Disciple_72

05-13-2005, 11:12 AM

Fouchon and Van Cleef from Hard Target definitely belong in the top 10 (yes, that "are they?/aren't they?/well they live together, don't they?" scuttlebutt is still making the rounds in the gay movie villain community)

but in joint number one place it would be a great big hairy toss up between Krill from Under Siege and Penn from Under Siege 2 ("that uncle of yours scares me... and I like it" is delivered with layers of subtlety that Commando's Bennet, with his operatic arena-filling Freddie Mercury showmanship, could never match)

Disciple_72

05-13-2005, 11:14 AM

also, I was considering that bad guy from Roadhouse, but other than the one liner he's a pretty forgettable baddie (and the movie is shit anyway)

Suttytx

05-13-2005, 11:32 AM

Emperor Palpatine

Trav McGee

05-13-2005, 01:27 PM

Will Patton, the unstable but devious undersecretary (or just specal assistant to the secretary?) in No Way Out.

...Does Michael Caine in Deathtrap count as a "villain"?

RathBandu

05-13-2005, 02:14 PM

Milo wins, hands down. That was the first guy I thought of when I saw this thread.

Z-Man

05-13-2005, 02:33 PM

Ronnie "Z-Man" Barzell from Beyond the Valley of the Dolls!

Alex Riviello

05-13-2005, 04:03 PM

The dude in the green suit from Versus. Best villan ever. It's all about the knife fight.

fabfunk

05-13-2005, 06:30 PM

I don't know his name, but the hotpants baddie in WILD ZERO. Sure, he had sex with a woman, but,,, man, those hotpants!

Randolph Carter

05-13-2005, 08:29 PM

...Does Michael Caine in Deathtrap count as a "villain"?

Also, Michael Caine in Dressed to Kill.

Vinz Klortho

05-13-2005, 09:43 PM

Fouchon and Van Cleef from Hard Target definitely belong in the top 10 (yes, that "are they?/aren't they?/well they live together, don't they?" scuttlebutt is still making the rounds in the gay movie villain community) Lance Henriksen's character was at least bi. The proof would be the scene where he grabs the female lead and saucily says "Load me" while holding out his incredibly phallic long-barreled pistol.

Moltisanti

05-14-2005, 01:27 AM

I don't know about Milo. He did threaten to show Joe's daughter how much of a "hot date" he was at one point so he may not be as gay as you might think. Bennet never made that threat to Matrix, he was just gonna slice Milano dead.

Any thoughts on the bad guys in SURVIVING THE GAME? All those men going out to the wilderness to "hunt." Something may have been up there.

Stew

05-14-2005, 05:38 AM

I can't believe no one has mentioned...

Jose Ferrer in Lawrence of Arabia.

"Your skin is....very fair......you haven't the slightest idea what I'm talking about do you?"

Momotaro

05-15-2005, 02:59 AM

I submit to you Charles Nelson Reilly in Cannonball Run II as Don Don. I can't imagine you getting a gayer villian than that.

Lee Harvey Cobblepot

05-16-2005, 04:44 AM

I don't know about Milo. He did threaten to show Joe's daughter how much of a "hot date" he was at one point so he may not be as gay as you might think.
Oh, he's gay, don't worry about it. I think Taylor Negron even has said in an interview that he played him as gay. Besides, how could he not be gay? I mean he's all polite and shit.

Milo knows he's the bad guy (one thing that I love about the script), and he revels in it. He knows he has to make a threat, and he knows it will make no difference as to what Joe will do. It's a matter of form more than anything else. If he had to he would show her what a hot date he was, but he wouldn't enjoy it. Much.

Moltisanti

05-16-2005, 06:56 PM

Oh, he's gay, don't worry about it. I think Taylor Negron even has said in an interview that he played him as gay. Besides, how could he not be gay? I mean he's all polite and shit.

I'll be sure not to worry about it too much but I think a case could be made that Mr. Joshua was as gay as Milo.

Lee Harvey Cobblepot

05-17-2005, 03:31 AM

I'll be sure not to worry about it too much but I think a case could be made that Mr. Joshua was as gay as Milo.
When you're right, you're right.
He seems to me to be about as gay as the fella in Commando.

And I never meant to imply that this business was something that actually worried you ;)

TheLurkerKing

05-19-2005, 12:42 PM

If gay can also include bisexuals and lesbians, then . . . And if we divided them into horror and non-horror, then . . .

Horror
Vampyr
Henriette Gerard (Marguerrite Chopin)

Lair of the White Worm
Amanda Donohoe (Lady Sylvia Marsh)

Fright Night
Chris Sarandon and Stephen Geoffreys (Jerry Dandrige and Edward "Evil Ed" Thompson)

Blood of Dracula
Louise Lewis (Miss Branding)

and whoever said, "Dracula's Daughter," I agree.

non-Horror
The Big Combo
Lee Van Cleef and Earl Holliman (Fante and Mingo)
Not overtly, but it is there.

Heathers
Lance Fenton and Patrick Layborteux (Kurt Kelly and Ram Sweeney)
Supposedly

Spartacus
Laurence Olivier (Crassus)

Atticus

05-19-2005, 01:02 PM

Ben Affleck at the end of Chasing Amy . . .

never mind.

Jonathan Banks is my hero

05-19-2005, 03:38 PM

- I always wondered about Ronny Cox from ROBOCOP, considering the subtext in the scene in the men's room where Cox's Dick Jones gives Miguel Ferrer's Bob Morton a little caress before pulling his hair.

- I haven't seen the movie in forever, but was Tim Roth's character in ROB ROY meant to be gay or simply effeminate?

- Bruce Willis in THE JACKAL. Or bi, at the very least.

Randolph Carter

05-19-2005, 09:14 PM

Charles Bronson and Jan Michael Vincent have an odd(slightly homo erotic) relationship in The Mechanic.

Disciple_72

05-20-2005, 06:16 PM

Simon Yam is fun to watch in the otherwise disappointing Full Contact (would like to see how OTT he gets in the completely uncut version, but apparently it's lost forever)

JacknifeJohnny

05-26-2005, 10:52 AM

I haven't seen the movie in forever, but was Tim Roth's character in ROB ROY meant to be gay or simply effeminate?

- Bruce Willis in THE JACKAL. Or bi, at the very least.

Roth was bi in Rob Roy, and I'd mention Edward Fox from the original "Day of the Jackal" before Bruce Willis.

Despite the rape scene, I've a sneaking suspicion about Little Ze' in "City of God".

"Shitfuck pimp" and world champion Bellucci pummeller, La Tenia from Irreversible belongs on this list.

Bubba Zanetti and Toecutter (maybe) from Mad Max.