View Full Version : whats the screen burn time limit for an rptv?
turdmuppet
03-12-2003, 08:29 PM
i just got a rear projection tv and was wondering about those logos networks keep in the corner of the screen and wanted to know how long it would take for a constant image to remain before permanently being burnt into the mirror,i have'nt been able to watch any mst3k's yet cuz the episodes i have dont have any commercials and i dont want to have a little theatre with mike nelson and the bots ingrained into it,mine doesn't come with a scrren saver are they supposed to?
Cosmic Ray
03-12-2003, 08:34 PM
Unfortunately, I learned this lesson the hard way. I've got a 60 inch Toshiba TheaterView with the "GoVideo" logo permanently burned in the middle of the screen from my DVD/VCR combo. This is thanks to a few nights that I've fallen asleep watching a movie only to have that default blue screen with logo sit there for hours afterward. Thankfully, it's not too noticeable except when there's an extraordinary amount of white on the screen.
Don't have a specific answer on the maximum amount of time that would be safe, but I would advise caution, for sure.
turdmuppet
03-12-2003, 08:57 PM
Cosmic Ray:
Unfortunately, I learned this lesson the hard way. I've got a 60 inch Toshiba TheaterView with the "GoVideo" logo permanently burned in the middle of the screen from my DVD/VCR combo. This is thanks to a few nights that I've fallen asleep watching a movie only to have that default blue screen with logo sit there for hours afterward. Thankfully, it's not too noticeable except when there's an extraordinary amount of white on the screen.
Don't have a specific answer on the maximum amount of time that would be safe, but I would advise caution, for sure.thanks for the info sorry about your tv man breaks my heart, ive been worried about this problem ever since i got this tv a week ago.
Kid Ego
03-12-2003, 09:14 PM
It takes many many many hours of constant exposure and high contrast for a true burn in to occur. The best thing to do is not go too long at a time with the same image on the screen. For instance, I played GTA:VC for HOURS at a time (sometimes 8 hours) and daily, and it didn't burn in at all. I also interspersed movies and normal TV during the time I wasn't playing though, so the exposure wasn't absolute.
All you have to do is be careful. Watching a couple hockey games on ESPN isn't going to hurt, but keeping it on Headline News for 80 hours straight might see some burn.
turdmuppet
03-12-2003, 09:41 PM
Kid Ego is a lazy bastard:
It takes many many many hours of constant exposure and high contrast for a true burn in to occur. The best thing to do is not go too long at a time with the same image on the screen. For instance, I played GTA:VC for HOURS at a time (sometimes 8 hours) and daily, and it didn't burn in at all. I also interspersed movies and normal TV during the time I wasn't playing though, so the exposure wasn't absolute.
All you have to do is be careful. Watching a couple hockey games on ESPN isn't going to hurt, but keeping it on Headline News for 80 hours straight might see some burn.cool i can watch my Mst3k's without worrying too much now.
Angles
03-13-2003, 12:36 AM
As long as you have your contrast & brightness settings below 40% or so, burn-in becomes less of a risk.
Have you calibrated your RPTV with Avia or Video Essentials?
turdmuppet
03-13-2003, 01:54 AM
Gio Angles:
As long as you have your contrast & brightness settings below 40% or so, burn-in becomes less of a risk.
Have you calibrated your RPTV with Avia or Video Essentials?no do those come on dvd discs? and how much do they cost?
Dave Davis
03-13-2003, 08:10 AM
I didn't think this was as big of a problem with the newer sets.
But burn-in complaints is why a lot of the network logos are translucent now.
Katanga
03-13-2003, 08:16 AM
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/630551982X/qid=1047561303/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-5601815-0447960?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846" target="_blank">Avia</a>
After about 3 months of regular use you might want to check into getting an ISF tech to calibrate your set.
Angles
03-13-2003, 10:37 AM
If you haven't done so already, drop your contrast and brightness settings to around 40%, but definitely keep it below the halfway mark.
Just about every HDTV is delivered with the factory settings in "torch" mode, so the TV image stands out in the harshly-lit retail stores. It's totally unnecessary for home use, and can cause some serious burn-in if it's not dialed down to more reasonable levels. Lowering those two settings is the best way to lengthen the life of your set.
Even though it seems a bit pricey, using Avia will do wonders to your image. Aside from helping you pinpoint your contrast and brightness settings, it has seperate test signals to adjust sharpness, and it includes some color filters to adjust your hue/color levels properly. Your eyes will quickly get used to the reduced brightness of the image, and you'll begin to notice colors and details that weren't visible when the set wasn't calibrated.
Hell, if you've spent a good chunk of change on that TV already, what's another $40 to get it to look right.
I'll second Katanga's suggestion to get your set ISF calibrated. I've read enough reviews to convince me to get one when I finally get around to getting my TV.
For the moment though, pick up that Avia disc!
Chris McGeachy
03-13-2003, 12:57 PM
They say hooking up video games for the first month is also a no-no. The life-bars burn into the screen fairly easily.
I have a friend who deals in televisions. He's told me that you have to let the guns do their thing for a little while, a few months at least, and the risk of burning goes down after a while.
Take heed to the comments above, reducing contrast is a good idea.
Cheers
Kronos
03-14-2003, 12:33 AM
Dave Davis:
I didn't think this was as big of a problem with the newer sets.
But burn-in complaints is why a lot of the network logos are translucent now.Even local station too. We've gone to a translucent one.
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