Gotta Get This Off My Chest

[Rath/Brendan]

All right, so I've been debating whether or not I should make a thread out of this, but, fuck it.

We had someone fall or jump at least five stories at the library where I work today. I didn't see it, but I heard the noise when the body hit the floor (solid marble) and saw the body. The noise it made sounded a lot like a firecracker, or how I imagine a gunshot would sound. There was very little blood until they turned him over, and then it looked like he had a really bloody nose.

I wasn't but fifteen feet away from the guy, and I can't help but wonder if I hadn't been reading Joe Bob Briggs' "Joe Bob Goes Back To The Drive In", maybe I would have seen the guy fall, maybe I could have done something. Maybe.

I don't think he made it. The body was twitching and when they brought the paramedics in, they had to perform CPR. I know CPR. I have to ask myself, why I didn't do anything? I saw the crowd yelling at a guy trying to move the guy, turn him around. They told him not to move him because of his neck. There's a way to move a body without injuring the neck. I know that. Why didn't I do anything?

After they wheeled him out the flatline from the portable ekg still echoed. That's a sound I never heard before, except in the movies. It's funny, when you watch movies, you think you know something, you think you know what it sounds like, but when confronted with that sound in reality it doesn't sound like you thought it sounded.

I like to think that I'm no stranger to death, my mother, two friends, teachers, so forth and so on. Never really saw a dead body, or a dying body until today. Didn't even know the guy, but it's a different thing when you see a person not fifteen, twenty feet away, dying. Terrible thing. Terrible thing.

And then the fucking photographers...I can understand wanting to document it, but there wasn't much to see. I used to be all for freedom of the press in situations like these, but now, having been on the other side, wanting to punch the photographer, I don't know exaclty where I stand. How many photos do you need--there wasn't anything to see, anyway? Vultures. Fuckers. FUCKERS.

Sorry if this is kind of disjointed, but I needed to get it off my chest. I just needed to get it down. I'm not gonna say that I'm not gonna be around much as a result, we all know that's not true. I just needed a place to share what's on my mind. Thanks for listening.

[devincf]

There's this NYU chick I know who was there. Sounds cool.

[David Manning]

Sorry, Rath.

Death, when it occurs in close proximity to you, can have a very unnerving effect.

[Ludwig]

Just how many lives does your brother have, Rath? This is what, the second time you've tried to off him? Oh no, wait. He tried to off you first. REVENGE!

[devincf]

XXXXXXXXXX: oh... he didn't jump over a window. have you been in there? there's a gigantic open space in the middle that he jumped into.
XXXXXXXXXX: an administrator jumped out of a window last year, from a building that is the same height as bobst and right next to it
Bklyn AlvySinger: wait, IN the library???
XXXXXXXXXX: yes, i think so
Bklyn AlvySinger: not outside?
Bklyn AlvySinger: jesus
XXXXXXXXXX: no
Bklyn AlvySinger: that's fucked
XXXXXXXXXX: seriously
Bklyn AlvySinger: that's how i would do it though, i think
Bklyn AlvySinger: i'm an attention whore
Bklyn AlvySinger: maybe he was thrown
Bklyn AlvySinger: maybe he had found an ancient book of power
Bklyn AlvySinger: and a dark force threw him
Bklyn AlvySinger: we should look into this possibility
XXXXXXXXXX: right, and if you survived for a bit, it would be sort of like deleting over the internet, because you would get to see how everyone reacted to your suicide
XXXXXXXXXX: a friend of mine was in the library at the time, but he said he only heard it, didn't see it or the aftermath, really. just the stretcher leaving the building
XXXXXXXX: it's weird because there is this trippy floor at the library, if you look down. it's all 3-D, sort of looks like that game Qbert

[Ludwig]

It make the news yet in NYC? There should be a creepy story behind this one. Or demonic ancient book(s) of power.

[devincf]

<a href="http://students.gallatin.nyu.edu/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2124" target="_blank">http://students.gallatin.nyu.edu/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2124</a>

[Ludwig]

<img src="http://www.heinousbrains.com/images/needstogetlaid.jpg" alt="" />

HI! MY NAME IS SKIDDER! I AM A HIT WITH TEH LADIES!

[Hubris]

From that height, it would be like dropping a bag of watermelons out of a second story window: the bag may survive the fall, but the watermelons inside would be history. The guy's internal organs were probably pretty much decimated the second he hit the floor.

There is nothing you could've done, Rath, so there's no use beating yourself up over it. You just happened to be witness to an unfortunate situation and will probably be scarred for life by it. I know I would be.

[devincf]

He could have caught the kid.

[Ludwig]

Hey Rath! Way to capitalize on the guy's death by making new friends!

[Ludwig]

He could have caught the kid.

No, then he wouldn't be able to relate the story to multiple message board systems. Or to Skidder. He's SOOOOOOOOO dreamy!

[Rath/Brendan]

Look guys, this has really shaken me up and I wanted to talk to someone--anyone really, about it. I've been searching the NYU websites for stories about it and the like, and well, since the reception to the incident over at the Galatin board was much more sympathetic than the tag-team over here, I'm sorry if I wanted to talk about it. Forgive me.

[Yando]

I fuckin' hate Bobst with all of that open space.

It is the ultimate sign of "we've got $$$, so we waste massive amounts of open space!".

And it's EXTREMELY easy to just run and gun it over the waist high banners seperating you from the very long fall down onto the strangely hypnotic checkered tile.

And I believe NYU will keep this under wraps for a while. Just like with that NYU republicans kid who O.D.'ed on crazy amounts of drugs last year. In that case, the security guard let his friends leave AFTER he had died. And then they discovered this a day later.

[Rath/Brendan]

I read this architecture guide to NYC from the Seventies that totally ripped Bobst a new one. And yeah, that tile is hypnotic. And yeah, that thing with the Young Republican was FUCKED UP.

[Ludwig]

You do have friends in real life do you not? No need to succumb to the urge to publically display grief over here. And over there. But hey, if not for this thread, I would have never feasted upon Skidder's mighty visage!

[devincf]

I didn't tag team you. I just happened to know about it.

[Ludwig]

No, Rath is assuming I have multiple personalities. Or a brother.

[Rath/Brendan]

I have friends in real life, and I've been talking to them about it. As do many of the other people who've gone through tough stuff on the boards. But like them, you guys are also my friends, and I'm close to many of you, and I just needed to get my thoughts down. I knew this thread was a bad idea. And Devin I'm not saying that you were tag-teaming me, it just felt that way with the back and forth banter between you and Mike.

[Ludwig]

Heh. Rath, you opportunistic fuck:

Hey guys,

My name is Brendan and I'm a sophomore in Tisch's Cinema Studies department. I am considering transferring to Gallatin but am still unsure. Were I to transfer, I'd like to study mythology and folklore as a concentration. However, I'd really like to continue studying film and film studies as well. Has anyone on the boards transfered to Gallatin and if so, what was that experience like? Would you reccomend it? Is it worth transferring to Gallatin if I'm in Tisch? Thank you for your help.

[Rath/Brendan]

I have been considering transferring to that school and I had no idea that the boards did exist until Dev linked to them. Since I had registered for them, I thought that I would go ahead and ask my question. But then, what do I know, Mike? You hate me, you always have, so whatever I say here won't make a goddamn difference.

[Yando]

Don't transfer to Gallitin! Stay! AHH!

Then again, you can always come up with your own major, which may not be a bad idea...

I spoke with some friends and they've heard nothing either. Which is typical.

I think WSN will pick this up about nine days too late.

[Ludwig]

You hate me, you always have, so whatever I say here won't make a goddamn difference.

Holy melodrama Batman! I don't even know you. How can I hate you? I just find this funny. I'd understand if you knew the guy. But it's obvious it didn't affect you too badly if you're whoring yourself out to this new school/group/cult/whatever already.

[Rath/Brendan]

WSN is a whole other story in of itself, it and Mr. Is Balding...

[Seahawk]

Mike, back off.

[Ludwig]

Or what? You'll start feeling sad that someone has died too, but not so sad that you can't inquire into going to a new school?

[edited to fix grammmmmar]

[Seahawk]

Mike Arsenault, Horribly Informal:
Or what? You'll start feeling sad that someone has died too, but not so sad that you can't inquire into going to a new school?

[edited to fix grammmmmar]The problem with this is? Why does it matter to you? What is your issue with it? Can you just let him do what he wants? Who cares what he does? Just let it go for the love of Mongolia.

[Ludwig]

I could ask you the same thing Seahawk. Obviously he wasn't upset enough by the events to miss out on the O to ask completely non-related questions to people he doesn't even know. I just find it funny. It's like saying "I saw this guy die after being hit by a car and it freaked me out. I think I will call 1-976-COCK and listen to men fucking each other." The sentiment didn't match the subsequent actions.

[Seahawk]

&lt;throws up hands&gt;

I wouldn't compare it to that, but you seem so intent on pointing it out.

[Ludwig]

Any way you slice it, it's F-A-K-E. Or worse, shallow. And I would LOVE to see how you put it, cause I love hearing crazy made up stuff.

[Seahawk]

Mike Arsenault, Horribly Informal:
Any way you slice it, it's F-A-K-E. Or worse, shallow. And I would LOVE to see how you put it, cause I love hearing crazy made up stuff.I'm not sure HOW I'd put it, but I don't agree with your method. Agreeing to disagree.

[David Manning]

Wow. Nice to see the chewers coming together to support each other.

I can really feel the love, fellas.

[Ludwig]

Huh?

[Katanga]

That was LAME, Ludwig.

[Ludwig]

Just confused. If Manning was talking about me, I'm not from New York :( If he was talking about the other NYC chewers who haven't posted in this thread, it's not as though the thread title screams "HEY NYC CHEWERS!". More than likely, he's doing his 3rd person "Devin is a snivler" routine again.

[Ludwig]

And changing your name to Dr. Pecker is a mite creepy there Loganite.

[David Manning]

Ack. You are correct, Mike. For some reason, I thought you were in NY.

Drop the NY reference.

[Katanga]

Nervous breakdown time?

[Diva]

Well as a NYU alum, I can tell you that there will be many more deaths during your time there rath. I witnessed a suicide my sophomore year. Some guy jumped out his window and landed in the courtyard of Weinstein. I heard the scream looked out the window and saw his mangled body lying on the ground. I witnessed the plethora of photos being taken, and over the next few weeks, almost every person I saw was trying to out-story each other by claiming they were the first to witness the act, they were his friend, blah blah blah.

There's nothing really to say except that your life should go on. There was nothing you could have done about it. The person obviously had issues that went far beyond anything you had to do with and instead of seeking help decided ending his life was far superior than living. If you are still shaken up about this after a few weeks, please seek counseling. Death is a sad thing, but should not affect *your* life to the point that you can't function any more.

[Pariah81]

It doesn't matter if he's really upset or not, Mike. I don't see how that makes it ok for you to rattle of a string of asinine posts trying to call him out, especially if you're using the logic that anybody who is even slightly bothered by a death wouldn't post about anything else on a message board for at least a month.

You think its in bad taste, go ahead and say so, but you don't need to highjack his thread. I don't see any motive for continuing to insult Rath unless it gives you some pathetic kind of satisfaction. The topic has jack shit to do with you.

[Ludwig]

Hey, I all for true emotional displays, but this is teh fakors. Thus worthy of ridicule. A month to wait before post-whoring would have been ridiculous too. But 10 minutes after saying he was so shaken up? Very funny, IMHO. And entertaining.

[Capt. Eucalyptus]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike Arsenault, Horribly Informal:
<strong>this is teh fakors.</strong>

How old are you?

<strong>Thus worthy of ridicule. A month to wait before post-whoring would have been ridiculous too. But 10 minutes after saying he was so shaken up? Very funny, IMHO. And entertaining.</strong>

How long have you been able to read minds? Barring that when did you get your degree in psychology?

[Ludwig]

Oh please. Anyone who has felt a genuine sadness for the death of another doesn't go off and do their own thing like 2 seconds after feeling said emotion. It's just common sense, not mind reading. And please spare me the whole "different people grieve/are sad different ways" speech.

And the minute someone buys into the idea that they immediately have to share their feelings to the whole freakin' world the very instant they feel midly upset, they become fair game. Stoicism needs to make a come back, and right fucking now. This culture we live in where no one is suppossed to be excluded and everyone needs to wear their hearts on their sleeve no matter how trivial their tragedy really burns my ass.

[David Manning]

Physician, heal thyself.

[Katanga]

Cool...then consider yourself excluded, Cocksucker.

[Capt. Eucalyptus]

So you've never been young and full of the kind of energy, emotion, wonder and confusion that is in many ways exemplified by our young friend? I feel sad for you.

[Ludwig]

Physician, heal thyself.

I have. If Blofeld's ordeal has taught us nothing, it's that sharing personal details of your life on the Internet can be damaging and definitely hurtful. So I don't share important or terrible things that are going on in my life here anymore.

Cool...then consider yourself excluded, Cocksucker.

Oh no! I can't hang out with Logan's Bitches anymore?!?!?! WHATEVER SHALL I DO !?!?!?

So you've never been young and full of the kind of energy, emotion, wonder and confusion that is in many ways exemplified by our young friend? I feel sad for you.

What, I've never felt a suppossedly important emotion that only lasted for 10 seconds? This somehow makes me less of a person? I agree with you on the confusion part though definitely.

[Katanga]

God, you're good. Did you get wit training at Little Caeser's?

[Ludwig]

hehehehe...why don't you go back to reposting Kirby's thread ideas on Logan's site, bitch.

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[Katanga]

I'm flattered to be stalked, whack-o.

If you haven't entered a clinic or committed suicide in a year...I'll eat my hat.

[Micah Robinson]

Sigh.

Cool off and move on.