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Great review, Grendel!
I haven't finished dreamcatcher yet but I think it's an amazing piece of work so far. My favorite character is Kurtz, another sublime Stephen King villain, although the visual I'm getting for him is totally Herr Starr from Preacher. I also love Mr. Gray/Jonesy. I love the writing, love the setting, the tone, the characters, all of it. I recommend it to everyone on these message, particularly Nick who I'm sure will have an affinity for the ass weasels.
William Goldman is adapting this for the movies (same combo for Hearts in Atlantis, which I'm also seriously jonesing to see). Can't wait.
Eddie5
04-20-2001, 04:58 PM
Damn! His review is up?
Gotta go then. I've been waiting for this.
Blofeld
04-20-2001, 05:02 PM
hehehehehe ... I think Eddie believes us! Imagine how mad he's gonna be when he discovers our clever little plan to waste his time!
Like grendel would write a review for this piece of garbage!
Eddie5
04-20-2001, 05:02 PM
Cool review, man.
Had to skim some parts of it cos I want to be caught unwares when I get the book. Thanks for the added boost to go get the book.
Blofeld
04-20-2001, 05:03 PM
Wait ... there is a review? oh, damn...
Nevermind.
Eddie5
04-20-2001, 05:04 PM
Don't you just hate bald has been villains?
grim_fist
04-20-2001, 05:52 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Kurtz, another sublime Stephen King villain, although the visual I'm getting for him is totally Herr Starr from Preacher.
WOW! I thought the same thing, yt.
grendel
04-20-2001, 06:40 PM
I saw Kurtz as this evil cop I know. It fit. I saw the shitweasels as Darryl Hannah.
MoriartyAICN
04-22-2001, 02:16 AM
Nice review. I just finished this myself, and it's a relief to realize that King has retained that special voice that has made him so influential to so many of us. If anything, the anger at his accident gave the book a bit of fire that was surprising.
And your Daryl Hannah line is responsible for the Mountain Dew that came out of my nose, ya bastard.
Eddie5
04-22-2001, 02:24 AM
Daryl Hannah is a booger? And a strong and feisty one at that.
Johnny Butane
04-22-2001, 09:15 AM
While reading this, which I bought the day it came out, just like every other King book over the past decade, I couldn't picture how they'd do it as a movie. So much of it is telepathic, and during the last half Jonesy is trapped in his own mind. I just can't see it transfering well to screen.
Great review, though. Glad to see others enjoyed it as much as I.
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Eddie5
04-22-2001, 10:40 PM
Thanks for making it spoiler free, Johnathan.
grendel
04-23-2001, 01:51 PM
Butane: I disagree...I think it could translate to film REALLY well, and not all that difficultly...Jonesy may be in his head, but he's in an actual physical room from his memory...in his head. You just close in on the character's eye, through it into his brain a la FIGHT CLUB, and then into the room where, once again, the character is sitting.
Moriarty: Always happy to help!
Chris Redfield
05-01-2001, 02:52 AM
Man, I hate to be the sole voice of discontent, but I'm not too happy at this point. Kurtz has just fired up his men for some sort of assault and I couldn't give a shit. Get me back to the Beav or Jonesy--does King want to try and become the next Tom Clancy?
The novel just isn't grooving at this point. I hope I'm wrong...upon further reads I ended up liking The Tommyknockers.
And it had better have a better resolution than Caleb Carr's atrocity called Killing Time. Now there was a waste of money!
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chenzzo
05-01-2001, 08:32 AM
I'm currently a little over halfway through it, and digging it.
I am however, learning not to get too attached to anybody.
Eddie5
05-01-2001, 08:59 AM
Good idea, chenzzo.
I'll wait till you finish it before I begin a thread on the book then. I'm hankering for a discussion on certain aspects of the story.
chenzzo
05-01-2001, 10:42 AM
I'll hurry.
Eddie5
05-01-2001, 10:50 AM
Great. Remember, Walken is Kurtz.
chenzzo
05-01-2001, 01:25 PM
I thought Brando was Kurtz?
Eddie5
05-01-2001, 01:28 PM
Funny, smart-boy. Quick, go finish the book.
Chris Redfield
05-01-2001, 02:56 PM
I tore through the first 200 pages the day I picked the book up (Sunday), but this whole
Kurtz thing is like slamming on the brakes. It felt like the momentum he built up with the five kids (including Duddits) came to a screeching halt with this Kurtz fella.
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I wonder if King watched Apocalypse Now a few times during his recovery. Kurtz? The Stones playing while the gunships swoop in? Surely that's not accidental. Gotta be an homage.
I'm trying to reserve judgement because I'm sure this is going somewhere. By the end I know I won't be disappointed, but I can't help but to wonder where it's all headed. Must...keep...reading.
BlackCrowe
05-01-2001, 08:48 PM
SPOILER ALERT******
The whole Kurtz thing is spelled out, keep reading! (yes it was on purpose).
Anyhow , I agree all the telepathy may not pan out well ON Screen.
grendel
05-02-2001, 02:19 PM
It works, I still say. I'm no filmmaker but I read this book VERY visually, and there was little that I couldn't see working onscreen. Hell, one of the easiest ways would simply be to establish Jonesy's character as a guy who talks to himself, or at least after the accident. By the time you have him in the room in his head, he's a talkin' fool.
Eddie5
05-02-2001, 02:50 PM
I too think that the book translates quite easily into a movie. I played some scenes out in my head while reading the book with fade ins, fade outs, cross cuts, jitters and all.
Works, baby...it works.
I still say it, though...Walken is Kurtz, gold watch up his ass is the key.
JARO BORANO
08-08-2002, 09:01 AM
I am halfway through the book and did watch the trailer for this and can't help but to see to be dissapointed that Morgan Freeman is playing Kurtz - better yet Colonel Abraham Curtis
WTF?
THey softened up his name in the movie and it seems like he won't be as tough as nails as he is written but more compassionate...
I think it is pivotal to the plot in the book and I think the translation will fail if his character ends up being a big ole softy...
Michael Rabattino
08-08-2002, 09:14 AM
The reason they changed the name to Curtis is that Kurtz is too similar to Apocalypse Now, and they fear that audiences will think it is related somehow.
And it is. That's the reason King named him it.
Michael Rabattino
09-16-2002, 05:20 PM
Cool exclusive footage on the main site even if they don't show too much. This film can't come quick enough for me, I can't wait.
Smirk
09-16-2002, 07:42 PM
Verbal, And No Mistake:
The reason they changed the name to Curtis is that Kurtz is too similar to Apocalypse Now, and they fear that audiences will think it is related somehow.
And it is. That's the reason King named him it.And he was named Kurtz because Apocalypse Now is an adaptation of Conrad's "Heart of Darkness". "Mistah Kurtz, he dead."
Anyway, awesome footage, can't wait for an actual *good* King adaptation (hopefully).
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