I NEED SOME NEW MUSIC!!!!!!!

[chenzzo]

I have been listening to the same stuff for years now, and I'm looking to expand my range of musical knowledge. Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially form some of you big music-philes out there. I mean you HAM!

Below is a kind of list with some of the bands I like from the past and present to help you get a feel for my tastes. Enjoy.

Cake
BloodHound Gang
Smashing Pumpkins
Tom Petty
CCR
Led Zeppelin
Beatles
STP
Three Dog Night
Beethoven
Bach
Grieg
Mozart
Beastie Boys
Eagles
Rage Against the MAchine
NIN
Rob Zombie
the Crow soudtrack
Aerosmith -older stuff
Rolling Stones

and much much more.

I'm looking for something to stimulate me. Something to make me think, and most importantly something to rock out to.

Suggestions?

[Nick Nunziata]

Faith No More-King For A Day Fool For A Lifetime

Corrosion of Conformity-Wiseblood

Mr. Bungle-California

Package.

[S-Mart Ash]

Incubus.

[udo1]

ACCEPT

[Jason Pollock]

Oh Nicky, King for a Day is my favorite. And I can do an excellent Patton impression, too. I've got his vocal stylings down-even the Kronos Quartet stuff.

Okay, chenzz, we're going to make this easy for you-meaning-you should be able to go to a record store and pick this stuff up. I did.

AVAIL-pick up "live at the bottom of the hill in san francisco" 1997-well rounded overview of thier music with liner notes.

TAL BACHMAN-"Tal Bachman" Randy Bachman of BTO's kid. Somber stuff. Swell guy.

Any BOB MOULD.

Any and all DREAD ZEPPELIN-but one that absolutely fits your interests would be "The Fun Sessions: Tortelvis Sings the Classics" 1996-it has covers from quite a few of the bands you have listed above, and the new arrangements run from witty to amazingy adept. This is one I personally guarantee you will love.

Any FACE TO FACE, with the accent on "face to face" 1996, and "ignorance is bliss" 1999.

I've been listening to an old album lately from a now defunct bad called LSD-LIFE, SEX, & DEATH called "The Silent Majority" 1992-that is very moody, strong, and wise. Check cut-out bins.

ALL (hail) MANOWAR-but if you need to pare that list down, go with "Fighting the World" 1987, "The Triumph of Steel" (for the TWENTY-NINE minute-orchestrally supported ACHILLES-AGONY AND ECSTASY IN EIGHT PARTS) 1992, and/or "Louder Than Hell" 1996-MANOWAR is one of my absolute favorite bands. One day I hope to have their bass player, Joey DeMaio compose the orchestral score for one of my films. These guys understand classical music, are way into Robert E. Howard, and are so old-school Dungeons and Dragons that they use randomizer chits in lieu of dice. Power and Glory.

Any ROLLINS BAND-many of which have just been remastered and contain new tracks, though the most sonically accessible ones are "The End of Silence" 1992, "Come in and Burn" 1997, and "Get Some Go Again" 2000, which should satisfy what seems to be a penchant you have for late '70's hard rock. "Come in.." is another one I guarantee-you can't be alive and not feel this album.

TYPE O NEGATIVE-"Bloody Kisses" 1993

A little tougher, but very rewarding, are the WARLOCK PINCHERS. Especially since you copped to the Beasties and the Bloodhound Gang. Tape loops, found sound, drum machines, and punk rock guitars-low tech Beastie Boys, or the Bloodhound Gang posessed by Satan-you be the judge. Albums include "Pinch a Loaf", "Deadly Kung-Fu Action" both 1988-and "Circusized Peanuts" 1989. Demented.

So there you go, maybe you'll like some of this stuff, best of luck.


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[Quatermass76]

Here at the pit, we listen to only the following:

Rick Springfield
Cheap Trick
Journey
Loverboy
John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band
Glen Frey
Honeymoon Suite
REO Speedwagon
The Alan Parsons Project
.38 Special

and of course, Mr. Jerry Reed.

[Jason Pollock]

I'm not too big on Honeymoon Suite, but the rest of THOSE BANDS FUCKING RULE!!!

"the Pit"

hee-hee!

[chenzzo]

you guys rock, now I just have to go out and get some funds, then I can rock too!

[DJEvil]

Not to knock HAM in any way shape or form, but lookin at chenzzo's list, I think HAM's suggestions are a bit on the heavy side. I like em, but they're mostly heavy. To each his own, I always say.

Whale. Loops, samples, light, heavy, rocking, rolling, fun, and mischevous.

Jimmy Eat World. Just a great rock band, albeit college rock.

Bjork. Always a treat.

[Johnny Butane]

Consider the Butane 5...

Wow, Nick likes Mr.Bungle. Wow.

[Jason Pollock]

Not to knock you, DJ, but if you thinks my stuff's too heavy, then you've never heard Tal Bachman or Bob Mould-I figured my inclusion of them would get me called a pussy and laughed off the board.

Since chenzzo included the Pumpkins, Rage Against the Machine, Rob Zombie, STP-I thought he could handle things on the harder side.

Avail is there because he said he wanted to think-

Tal Bachman and Bob Mould are there because of chenzzo's apparent interest in musicians as storytellers-Tom Petty springs to mind...

Dread Zeppelin is pretty much Reggae-Reggae doesn't get hard.

Face To Face is there bcause of the emotional content...

LSD-is all about the socio-political, about the heart, about drive. It rocks, but it's no harder than anything chenzzo mentioned.

Manowar is there because of his interest in classical music and hard rock in the 70's mode.

Type O Negative was included because there is some electronic stuff going on, melded with Zeppelin-inspired blues rock-he metioned the Crow soundtrack? Type O IS the Crow soundtrack! Brooding, plodding guitars, pathos.

Warlock Pinchers-are the Beasties posessed by Satan, and the Bloodhound Gang BEFORE the Bloodhound Gang.

He also said he wanted to think-Mould, Rollins, and even Bachman, are moody, introspective, weighty guys.

None of this stuff is too very hard at all. You want hard? I own Deicide. I own G.G. Allin. I have some Cannibal Corpse on tape. I didn't mention A.C.-Hell, I even made mention that the Rollins Band selections were the most "sonically accessible" of his discography-a great majority of his output is an endurance test-for himself and the listener. I walked a line that suggested what chenzzo might like BASED ON HIS LIST.

What I'm trying to say, is that I sat down and tailor made this list-justified every inclusion It took a very long time to do this, especially since my CD collection is broken down into so many different artists. I did try to suggest artist he may not have heard before, because, while I do like all of the bands on Quartermass' list-everybody knows who Cheap Trick is-I intentionally TRIED to suggest things that were uncommon-he said he wanted something NEW. I tried to give him "new"-I tried to give him ecletic, I tried to give him accessible. And if Mr. Labolito accepts any of my suggestions, I don't think he'll have any trouble with "too hard".

I look at your little list and think, "Man o' man o' WAR, does he use ANY excuse at all to mention Whale?"

What on chenzzo's list made you put that up?

Must have been Three Dog Night.



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[DJEvil]

Ok. Take Rob Zombie, Rage, and the Pumpkins, then take Rollins Band. Really. There's heavy, then there's "heavy." I don't think I'm outta line.

No, I haven't heard the other guys' stuff, so I could be mistaken.

Yes, I use any excuse to mention Whale.

[chenzzo]

Rollins in on the Crow soundtrack, btw.

Thanks HAM, and the rest, but especially HAM for going to so much trouble to put these lists together.

Hard is good, that is actually kinda what I had in mind. I forgot to add Metallica to my list. I know they are not really that hard, but harder than a lot of my choices.

Musicians as storytellers have always intrigued me. One of my favorite storyteller musicians, and I know I'llget laughed at for this is Johnny Cash. Back in the days before country was just Pop with a twang, this man ruled. His greatest hits album can get me through many a dreary day. Eric "GOD" Clapton and Petty are also on my storytellers list.

I thought I had heard of dread zep before, but maybe I was wrong. I thought they were an elvis sounding Led Zep cover band! maybe I was thinking of someone else.

I've never even heard of whale, what are they like. If they are techno-poppy, synth stuff, count me out.

[Nick Nunziata]

I don't like Mr. Bungle. I LOVE them, and have ever since 1990! Trey Spruance and Mike Patton are the musical equivalent of Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell.

[Jason Pollock]

Spruance and Patton/Raimi and Campbell-excellent analogy.

You're right about Dread Zep-but not. It's actually so much wierder than that. There's an entire disco album, where everything starts to sound like Led Zeppelin, there are oddball originals-the band is truly unbelievable. I wrote them off as a lame cover band for years, but once I listened to them, I discovered that they were more than one joke-that they aren't even a joke at all. To be perfectly honest, there are more than a few songs they've done that I like more than I ever liked the originals. Their version of Baba O' Reily is absolutely exhilarating.

Thanks, chenzzo. I'm feeling vindicated. Everyone up there is hard without being just obnoxious noise, and I hope you go out, find some of this stuff, and like it lots.

Especially Mr. Bungle...

Love, Jason


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[Jason Pollock]

By the way, anybody fucks with you about the Man in Black, I got your back.

[chenzzo]

I was thrilled to hear John Cusack say in High Fidelity that his favorite all time book was Cash by Johnny Cash. I know now that I am not all alone in the universe.

[Nick Nunziata]

Not to mention there was a conference about EVIL DEAD 2.

[Johnny Butane]

Okay, HAM, you are a pansy for liking Bob Mould, the man who USED to rock, then decided he was too old. Man, Husker Du, that's good music. I really have no problem with him, I just remember hearing his first post-HD song and almost cried cause it sucked so bad.

I can't go on, I hate my job too much

[Squirrel_pudding]

Try Visual Audio sensory Theatere. I've had their album for over a year now and I stil play it heavily. http://www.realvast.com Check out the video for "Pretty when you cry" Very weird.

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[Nick Nunziata]

Johnny, I was a husker du fan, but I found it in my hard to LOVE Sugar's first two discs.

[willko]

file under easy listening is still a favorite of mine. thumbs up for mould, ham.

chenzzo - my emphatic suggestion: buy some radiohead (start with "the bends" and then work to "ok computer" and then "pablo honey"). they're my favorite band extant today. i definitely see some influence from pink floyd in their sound, but they've got talent in spades both lyrically, and melodically. critics have spooged all over them since the release of "the bends" and went totally ga-ga over "ok". i would choose them to do the soundtrack to the next x-files movie in a heartbeat.

and if you're willing to give a different sound a try, get the magnolia soundtrack for some tunes from aimee mann. stirring, honest, and bittersweet stuff. don't know how you'll handle the supertramp tracks, though. heh.

/willko.

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[LowShot]

Gotta agree with Wilko.

Radiohead probably the best band since the Beatles.

If you can find it, check out Yo La Tengo. Real cool stuff. I've also been listening to the second Weezer album, Pinkerton, a lot recently. Any song with the lyrics "I'm done, she's a lesbian, I thought I had found the one" deserves praise.

Also the band Air has been frequenting my CD player quite a bit. They are instrumental, and just have good grooves and stuff. But if you like heavier stuff I would recommend Hum, Boy Sets Fire and the first Sunny Day Real Estate album.

or you could go get a Converge album and scream alot. . . That's always fun.

[LowShot]

You know who else is really good? Mike Ness. His solo stuff (including the heavily Johnny Cash influenced "Under the Influence"), rocks!

Oh, and No Knife is another good rock band.

[grendel]

Catherine Wheel--
"God Inside My Head"
"Judy Staring At the Sun"
"Eat My Dust, You Insensitive Fuck"

Liz Phair (and I'm not even into the 'chick with guitar' thing)

Portishead (music to feel stoned and sad by, like you lost a love and can't remember her)

And if you can find it:

Delerium--name of the album is 'Karma'
It's by the guys from Front 242, an industrial band, but it is not an industrial album in the least. These are the most haunting and beautiful songs with gorgeously-throated female guests vocalizing. And you cannot but weep and smile at the same time while listening to the 12 minute instrumental 'Quran'. This album is, bar none, the best thing I ever stole.

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[LowShot]

Portishead, gotta agree with that.

[girlcreeture]

I am in full agreement with the Portishead recommendation. Some more faves from my collection:
The Beatles NEVER get old
Anything by the following:
Crowded House
The Pixies
Alice Cooper
Meatloaf
Sisters of Mercy
Dead Can Dance(kinda like grendel's delirium but they don't use anything electronic besides a guitar or two, amazing vocals)
Switchblade Symphony(gothy yet fairly dancable, "I'm a tree, I'm a rock, I'm a fetus!")

Various other stuff:
Circle of Dust
Clutch
Me First & the Gimme Gimmies(they rock that's all)
Upper Crust (just started listnin to them, very good stuff)
Impotent Seasnakes(check them live if you can)
Velvet Goldmine soundtrack
Cradle of Filth(if ya like death metal)

[chenzzo]

Thanks again all you guys and gal.

Was I wrong, or were they mixing up facts about ED 2 and AOD in High Fidelity? They said something about making shotgun shells in the 14th century, that had to be in AOD, right?

I like radiohead, I don't have any of their albums, but I listen to the one's my co-worker has sometimes. Creep is my favorite radiohead song.

I've been wanting to get the Magnolia soundtrack ever since I saw the movie. All of those songs are so good. I especially liked the song that all of the characters were singing together in that one scene.

Portishead is not bad but a tad mellow for my tastes most of the time.

Clutch sounds like a good idea as well, I've only heard one of their songs, Spacegrass, but I thought it rocked.

Muchos Gracias for all the help peeeps.

[LowShot]

Girlcreature, good tunes! Pixies are great.

chenzzo, they talked about Evil Dead 2, not AOD, Although it did sound more like AOD from the way they talked about the movie. And you will definitely dig the Magnolia soundtrack, it's really great.

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[Johnny Butane]

I reiterate my request for the hand of girlcreeture in mantrimony.


I have never met a girl that liked Meatloaf. I have never met creeture, but shuddup. I think this is love. I love Meatloaf. Oh, my poor, poor heart.

[Blofeld]

mantrimony -- (noun) illicit insect love

[Hellblazer]

Or illicit man-love, one of the two.

[Joram Manka]

Depeche Mode
The Cure
Weezer
Bush
Nine Inch Nails
Pearl Jam
Stone Temple Pilots

Get these bands and be amazed.

Joram

[Johnny Butane]

Joram, no offense, since you are an Overlord, but I have to beat you like a stepchild now.

[LowShot]

Hey I like the first three. . . In fact I'm going to see the Cure next month.

And Depeche Mode is good, and Weezer rules.

[S-Mart Ash]

incubus, Incubus, INCUBUS DAMNIT!
*screams as a strange deamon comes up out of the modle hell he has in his attic*

Meatloaf is god.
(Thats Mr. Loaf to you DJ.)

[DJEvil]

I'd rather call him Mr. Meat.

[Squirrel_pudding]

[qoute]Joram, no offense, since you are an Overlord, but I have to beat you like a stepchild now.[/quote]

Watch out!! He knows circle block.

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[salsa shark]

i gotta say, if you like johnny cash, i will second the suggestion on listening to mike ness-lead singer of social distortion, and he also has 2 solo records
check out Social Distortion-live at the roxy and both of mr. ness's solo efforts

[LowShot]

Yep. Mike Ness is really great.

[girlcreeture]

Never met a girl who liked Meatloaf? Wow, he's got such a tendency to be sappy, well Jim Steinman actually though no one sings him like Meatloaf. Check this guy out live if you can, he rawks!

[Jason Pollock]

I had a girlfriend that loved Meat.

Er, Mr. Loaf.

oh, boy.