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Chris Myers
12-20-2007, 12:22 PM
Worst of 2007 is pretty easy, with shit like Epic Movie around... but what were your biggest letdowns? Movies you somewhat expected to be good but completely failed to succeed?

I gotta say that usually I'm quite an apologist of Tom Cruise because I really don't care about his private stuff, but boy was Lions for Lambs a boring piece of shit. The triumvirate of Cruise, Redford and Streep can lift almost any bad script, but this one was just too deep in the crapper. I didn't care for the message, there was nothing great to act and the movie itself just felt like a endless waste of time.

30 Days of Night. How good is the premise of a town in Alaska besieged by vampires? I know at least 5 writers who could have done something cool with that, but this? was nothing. One of the few flicks I constantly checked my watch in.

Although I had read the script before, I somehow wished for an interesting new take on Halloween. But everything Rob brought to the movie only made it worse. The soundtrack, the acting, the added oneliners, seriously. I won't understand how they could film certain scenes with a straight face. Midget Michael with the huge mask... Loomis, fuck, every Loomis scene... Love Hurts. This new interpretation made me embrace Halloween Resurrection.

Last, Fantastic Four 2: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Sure, the first was a stupid popcorn flick, but it made a lot of fun. The Thing-Flame banter, the overall good f/x, just felt good. I expected the sequel to be more of the same, just bigger in scale and with the additions of the Silver Surfer and Galactus, it could only be better. But no, the only cool Surfer stuff is already in the trailer, Galactus is not even seen in full and the rest felt hurried and mostly unfinished. The bit in the club was embarassing and as horrible as the new Doom. It made Ghost Rider look like real good movie, and that was only mediocre.

Kevin K
12-20-2007, 12:30 PM
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. I know it got a lot of love in these parts, but I thought it was predictable and derivative. Although Albert Finney gives a great performance and Marisa Tomei inexplicably gets hotter every year, I still found it very disappointing.

Pirates of the Carribean - At World's End. I think the first Pirates is the best adventure flick since Raiders, and the second one might be uneven but it has moments of sheer brilliance. But the third one... Yikes. What a turd.

MangyK9
12-20-2007, 12:38 PM
POTC 3 and Spider-Man 3 both had the unique trait of being epic in scope while having an incoherent, formless plot.

I gotta go with Spider-Man 3, however, simply because I loved Spider-Man 2, and was really hoping for great things. After Dead Man's Chest, my interest in Pirates waned.

KWolfhard
12-20-2007, 12:43 PM
I crap better pieces of shit than Golden Compass.

I was so incredibly disappointed with what was done with that movie.

Was Alpha Dog this year? I can't even remember now. I hated that movie with a passion.

Doc Happenin
12-20-2007, 12:44 PM
I'm gonna have to go with Balls of Fury; I don't know, but I was just so amped for that movie, but then it barely got a rise out of me. Excepting Jason Lee, he was great for the short time he was in there.

Edit: shit! Golden Compass; fuck that movie.

I'll jump on and defend PotC 3; giddy ass grin on my face from frame one on.

Moltisanti
12-20-2007, 12:47 PM
Was Alpha Dog this year? I can't even remember now. I hated that movie with a passion.

Why didn't you like ALPHA DOG? That's my pick for movie I had no interest in seeing in theaters or disc, stumbled upon it on cable, and now have an unconditional love for it that words can't express.

Timothy225
12-20-2007, 12:50 PM
Spider-Man 3 - it should have been either Sandman or Venom, not both. Venom could've been used to full effect in Spider-Man 4, but felt tacked on here. Too much of the movie felt that way. I liked it, but not as much as I should have after the first two films.

FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer - wasted potential. Purple helmet or no, I wanted to see Galactus, not a fucking cloud. Again, alot of things in this movie felt tacked on (Dr. Doom, etc.).

Phil!
12-20-2007, 12:55 PM
The letdowns this year had more to do with my expectations than the actual product, but:

Spider-Man 3 - SM2 was a hard act to follow. Kirsten Dunst singing is a hard thing to sit through three times.

Control - I dunno, it's not a bad film, but I wanted to love it, and I didn't.

Sunshine - The first 60 minutes of this movie is Spider-Man 2 to the last 30's Daredevil.

WB's shitty marketing of The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. (I almost typed The Assassination of The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford by the Cowards at Warner Brothers. But that'd be silly.

KWolfhard
12-20-2007, 01:00 PM
Why didn't you like ALPHA DOG? That's my pick for movie I had no interest in seeing in theaters or disc, stumbled upon it on cable, and now have an unconditional love for it that words can't express.

I was just so incredibly bored with it. The only real thing I liked about it was the psycho moment Ben Foster had at the party. Don't get me wrong, Emile Hirsch is one of my favourite actors and one of the best of my generation. But I just found it stumbled too many times throughout the whole film.

Why do you have an unconditional love for it? And don't tell me it's the tattoos on Justin Timberlake! Heh.

Justin Clark
12-20-2007, 01:03 PM
Why didn't you like ALPHA DOG? That's my pick for movie I had no interest in seeing in theaters or disc, stumbled upon it on cable, and now have an unconditional love for it that words can't express.

I'll echo this. Nobody wanted to hate that movie more than me walking into it. As of now, it's probably going to make my eventual favorite films of 2007 list.

Also, I maintain my non-hate of the Fantastic Four movie.

28 Weeks Later and Hannibal Rising, on the other hand....

Moltisanti
12-20-2007, 01:06 PM
Why do you have an unconditional love for it? And don't tell me it's the tattoos on Justin Timberlake! Heh.

It's mainly for Foster who makes his character in 3:10 TO YUMA seem restraint, a little for Sharon Stone's monologue, and just a pinch for the balls of giving Alan Thicke a small dramatic role.

Biggest disappointment has to be WAR. A simple concept screwed up royally.

sackley
12-20-2007, 01:08 PM
I'll third Spidey 3, though I can't outright comdemn it. Just the last 30 minutes or so.

Pirates was sooooooo disappointing. Again, moments of brilliance and gorgeous cinematography, but way way too long and too many extraneous storylines, coupled with a completely deflated finale meant I left the cinema with somewhat less than a big grin on my face.

Ghost Rider was shite, but I didn't have high hopes for it, truth be told.

Biggest disappointment though, and I know I'll catch flak for this, was Stardust. I enjoyed almost none of it and I really wanted to like it. But De Niro destroyed what little credit he had left (he regained a bit more recently when I got round to seeing The Good Shepherd); Ricky Gervais' run of film roles continues to be appalling next to his TV parts; Charlie Cox is a weak actor and a shocking leading man; Clare Danes was miscast; some of the effects were shoddy, as was Michelle Pfeiffer's make-up and overall, it was too long and amounted to very little worth remembering.

I'd almost hate it, if it weren't so fucking mediocre.

stelios
12-20-2007, 01:10 PM
Spider-Man 3 completely broke my spirit. It was the biggest letdown of the year by a mile, if only because of Spider-Man's 2 brilliance.

POTC 3 wasn't a disappointment because the downward spiral started at no. 2.

BTSMGL
12-20-2007, 01:14 PM
Spider-Man 3 was the biggest heartbreaker. Hitman was a disappointment, too. I didn't expect much, but at the same time I expected more than what I got.

Y'know what? I dreamt Iron Man sucked. I hope that one doesn't come true. I'm really pumped up for it.

KWolfhard
12-20-2007, 01:20 PM
It's mainly for Foster who makes his character in 3:10 TO YUMA seem restraint, a little for Sharon Stone's monologue, and just a pinch for the balls of giving Alan Thicke a small dramatic role.

Biggest disappointment has to be WAR. A simple concept screwed up royally.

I was just thinking of Foster's performance in 3:10. Jesus, he was awesome in that movie. Loved his performance in that.

KABONG
12-20-2007, 01:20 PM
I thought it had a lot of great moments in it, but I was saddened to see Seth Rogen the writer had very little understanding of story structure in the messy, if ocassionally hilarious, "Superbad". He has the same problem with "Drillbit Taylor", but I hope "Pineapple Express" comes out alright.

Also, I had a lot of blind faith in Sam Raimi after finding out Venom, a black hole of a character, was going to be in "Spider-Man 3". D'oh.

KWolfhard
12-20-2007, 01:21 PM
I'll echo this. Nobody wanted to hate that movie more than me walking into it. As of now, it's probably going to make my eventual favorite films of 2007 list.

Also, I maintain my non-hate of the Fantastic Four movie.

28 Weeks Later and Hannibal Rising, on the other hand....

Wait, wait... Shit, are you saying you hated 28 Weeks Later? How is that possible?

Doc Happenin
12-20-2007, 01:23 PM
Y'know what? I dreamt Iron Man sucked. I hope that one doesn't come true. I'm really pumped up for it.
I dreamed I was an older Justin Long in a sequel to Jeeper's Creepers, so not everything comes true.

But if Ironman sucks, I'm blaming YOU!

Yeroc7890
12-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Agree with Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, raise you Rescue Dawn (fuck that ending), 3:10 to Yuma (fuck that third act), American Gangster (fuck that entire aimless movie), and The Darjeeling Limited (which I should probably see again).

El Tati
12-20-2007, 02:03 PM
Spiderman 3, Sunshine, Babel (i saw it this year)

Supremo
12-20-2007, 02:12 PM
Definitely Halloween. I don't know why I had any hope, since Rob Zombie's first two movies were shit and early buzz was deadly, but for some reason I did.

I'd also have to add Knocked Up. I didn't dislike it, but it didn't compare to 40-Year-Old Virgin or Superbad for me, so it was a bit of a letdown.

BobClark
12-20-2007, 02:20 PM
Spider-Man 3, the very definition of disappointment. We had every reason to expect this to be great and it let us down.

Justin Clark
12-20-2007, 02:23 PM
Wait, wait... Shit, are you saying you hated 28 Weeks Later? How is that possible?

It starts out on the right track. After Begbie slaughters his wife, everything interesting about that film goes to shit, primarily because it forgets that the reason the weaker bits of 28 Days Later worked was because we were following people worth giving two squirts about.

DARKMITE8
12-20-2007, 02:32 PM
Spider-Man 3, the very definition of disappointment. We had every reason to expect this to be great and it let us down.
This is it...

And the fact I haven't bought it on DVD yet speaks miles for me. Will get it used at some point post-Holidays most likely. Saw it opening day in the theater.

FrankCobretti
12-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Biggest disappointment? I finally clicked on one of those "Watt a w0myn wants -- unline pharma" ads.

You know what it told me? "A seven figure salary."

Andrew Collins
12-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Not trying to be rude, but to me, Alpha Dog was shrill, boring and laughably bad.

Barkatthemoon
12-20-2007, 02:35 PM
The Simpson's Movie All I get for my PG-13 is a shot of Bart's willy and a Goddamn?

livefreeordie
12-20-2007, 02:42 PM
For me it was the kingdom. I had good expectations that this would be an semi-intelligent movie with allot of tension, and it ended up being the biggest piece of "hearts & minds" bullshit. I mean the end was to be controversial by killing off unconventional "target" to avenge the death of the ONLY non American character!!!!

Fucking pointless...

At least i had the pleasure of seeing it with a room full of Algerians and Libenese.It made the reactions more memorable.

livefreeordie
12-20-2007, 02:44 PM
Oh and i second or third the Golden Compass, talk about cutting a final act for a happy ending.

Jeremy Jochman
12-20-2007, 02:56 PM
And the fact I haven't bought it [Spider-Man 3] on DVD yet speaks miles for me.

No kidding. That should have been an automatic purchase, but now I'll be just fine if I happen to get it for free with a Blu-ray player or in a 3 for $20 deal at Blockbuster.

I was bored senseless with POTC 3. I really enjoy the second one, so this was almost more of a disappointment to me than Spidey. Again, I thought this would be a sure buy, but I have no interest whatsoever in watching this thing again.

Biggest disappointment as a result of too much hype before I saw it goes to Knocked Up. I saw it right after it came out on DVD and I have to say that I was more irritated and mildly depressed about the whole thing. Stupid guy's guy portrayals piss me the fuck off.

Justin Clark
12-20-2007, 02:57 PM
Biggest disappointment as a result of too much hype before I saw it goes to Knocked Up. I saw it right after it came out on DVD and I have to say that I was more irritated and mildly depressed about the whole thing. Stupid guy's guy portrayals piss me the fuck off.

Not to give you an undue amount of shit, but you have effectively missed the point.

BrianM
12-20-2007, 02:57 PM
Biggest disappointment? I finally clicked on one of those "Watt a w0myn wants -- unline pharma" ads.

You know what it told me? "A seven figure salary."

And now I'm disappointed in you, Cobretti.

But seriously folks, Spidey 3 was assier than I thought it had a right to be, while I had fairly low expectations for Pirates 3 so that turned out OK as far as I was concerned.

And I WAS disappointed to miss a free shot on Cobretti when I had to bail on the D.C. chewers' December thing-a-ling.

KillingPickman
12-20-2007, 03:26 PM
This thread.

FrankCobretti
12-20-2007, 03:27 PM
And now I'm disappointed in you, Cobretti.

Hey, not every joke can be a winner.

BTSMGL
12-20-2007, 03:30 PM
But if Ironman sucks, I'm blaming YOU!

Eep!

It starts out on the right track. After Begbie slaughters his wife, everything interesting about that film goes to shit, primarily because it forgets that the reason the weaker bits of 28 Days Later worked was because we were following people worth giving two squirts about.

Now that you mention it, 28 Weeks Later let me down a bit, too. It was just an annoying movie, what with the ridiculously epileptic shakycam and the overuse of that dumb "film at day but make it to look like night in post" effect.

Andrew Eaton
12-20-2007, 04:34 PM
Revolver. I Am Legend. Across the Universe. Also, I had the opportunity to watch Southland Tales online (I don't do that pirating shit but I didn't feel like I was stealing anything) but I figured, "Hey, maybe I can make fun of it later!" I turned it off 30 minutes through.

I could pretend I was disappointed by The Invasion and 30 Days of Night, but that's about how I expected them to come out.

This thread.

I agree with the Pickman. I know my comments here aren't earth-shattering, but seriously, some of you people need to get out more.

Jeremy Jochman
12-20-2007, 04:38 PM
Not to give you an undue amount of shit, but you have effectively missed the point.

No, I fully understood the tagline of "what if this guy got you pregnant?". I just didn't find it to be the uproarious laugh riot that everyone else did. I dunno, maybe I was sympathizing with Alison too much. To be fair, I had the same kind of letdown with Borat last year. My expectations got way too high given the constant chatter. But yeah, Crow, out of context I deserveth your shit hurling. :)

Spike Marshall
12-20-2007, 04:40 PM
I'm surprised there is so much hate for Spider Man 3 which was the most legitimately entertaining film of the Blockbuster season (IMO).

Martin Savage
12-20-2007, 04:46 PM
I'm surprised there is so much hate for Spider Man 3 which was the most legitimately entertaining film of the Blockbuster season (IMO).

That title belongs to Transformers, which was so much better than it was supposed to be. Since Spiderman 2 is among the best of it's kind, it's pretty normal it's a letdown. It was at best, passable.

Entertaining, sure, but would I watch it as I did the others? No.

And I Am Legend was a major letdown on my side. I hoped too much for the original ending, but even then, those CGI monsters and lack of good story didn't work. The only good surprise is Will Smith not acting too much as Smith typically do.

Spike Marshall
12-20-2007, 04:49 PM
I thought Transformers, aside from some great work by John Turturro and LeBouf, was pretty crummy to be honest.

Tom Roberts
12-20-2007, 04:53 PM
Spiderman 3 for me too (cause the 2nd one was SO good). But also Transformers. Specifically the end of it which I hoped would be the ultimate robot smackdown.

People say you'd be stupid to have expectations of a good movie going in. I expected that:

a) The action scenes would be well staged (eg,. you can see what is going on)

b) That the villians of the piece would have characters.

c) It wouldn't have the stink of pro-US Military proganda wafting in every now and again

Radb707
12-20-2007, 05:06 PM
No, I fully understood the tagline of "what if this guy got you pregnant?". I just didn't find it to be the uproarious laugh riot that everyone else did. I dunno, maybe I was sympathizing with Alison too much. To be fair, I had the same kind of letdown with Borat last year. My expectations got way too high given the constant chatter. But yeah, Crow, out of context I deserveth your shit hurling. :)

Yeah, he didn't mean you missed the point as in "the tagline" or "what the flick was about". I had alot of fun watching it in the theatre and then went I watched it on dvd it really wasn't all that funny.

Superbad was disappointing for me. It just started feeling way too immature, but hey, it was written when they were in high school so I don't expect it to be mature.

I fucking hated Borat. Half the movie was lame gay jokes. It just didn't do it for me.

I was disappointed with the last third of 3:10 to Yuma. Not because it's wholly different from the original, but because it made little sense in reason.

Radb707
12-20-2007, 05:37 PM
.,.

FilmNerdJamie
12-20-2007, 05:45 PM
This is it...

And the fact I haven't bought it on DVD yet speaks miles for me. Will get it used at some point post-Holidays most likely. Saw it opening day in the theater.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I expected Pirates 3 to suck since Dead Man's Chest was ass; no shocks there. The Simpsons Movie wasn't fucking terrible like I expected. But it was still nowhere near where the show used to be in terms of writing. It was...watchable (i.e. For Christ's sake, get Al Jean off the fucking show and get David Mirkin back!)

Gabe Powers
12-20-2007, 06:42 PM
I was dissapointed by all the summer blockbusters I saw to a certain degree. I still like Spider Man 3 overall (I gave it a 6/10 on DVDActive), but it wasn't great. Transformers, FFRotSS and DHwaV weren't awful, but still didn't do it for me, and I didn't even see POTC3 because I was so dissappointed in POTC2. But my biggest dissapointment was actually 300, which looked so good on paper and in the trailers, but not so great in action (and the David Wenham narrations was cringe inducing).

And for biggest video dissapointment I pick Babel, which I never saw in theaters, and positively hated on DVD.

My biggest surprise was Harry Potter 5. I didn't expect much, I suppose.

moovyphreak
12-20-2007, 07:10 PM
Definitely PotC 3 and Spider-Man 3.

And since I don't make a habit of going to see stuff I am not interested in, I can't think of anything else that I didn't enjoy in the theater this year.

TheCynic
12-20-2007, 07:58 PM
Shoot Em Up. I expected it to be passable, and evidently that was too much.

Pirates 3, for all the reasons listed here.

Once. Just kidding, this was amazing.

The Gayest
12-21-2007, 01:10 AM
The entire summer except Bourne and Simpsons. Especially Pirates 3. And I thought Pirates 2 was the best. Which I know makes me weird.

American Gangster was really disappointing. I expected to love that movie and I was bored.

And honestly, after the pre release hype, I thought Hot Fuzz was gonna blow the doors down. And while it was certainly a good film, its got nothing on Shaun of the Dead.

Anderson
12-21-2007, 01:13 AM
Spider-Man 3.

I have other films I didn't like, but that film didn't have to do much to win me over. Still, it failed. It was like watching the "special" kid run down the touchdown through his own goal post and then having him punch the quarterback in the junk.

Mr.Eko
12-21-2007, 01:30 AM
Spider-Man 3

Hitman

These are the only 2 that I can think of at this moment that really let me down.

Sammy Jankis
12-21-2007, 08:33 AM
8 episodes of Lost. I'm with the writers and all, but it would be easier to support them if I didn't have to make any sacrifices.

Richard Dickson
12-21-2007, 09:13 AM
Transformers. I wanted to love it, the effects looked great, but I was never wowed by it.

Nibblonian
12-23-2007, 01:33 PM
American Gangster was the big one for me; I expected 'classic' and instead got 'vaguely uninteresting.' The whole thing feels like an uninspired, unfocused retread of every damn cliche in the gangster film genre (maybe the title was meant to be a clue?). Ridley Scott is officially demoted (only in my own strange little mind, of course) from great filmmaker to above-average crowd-pleaser.

Biggest surprises of the year? Surely Jesse James and Zodiac. I'm not a big fan of David Fincher, and I'm not one of those cool people who saw Chopper so I had no prior knowledge of Andrew Dominik, and both films ended up being some of my favorites of the year.

DARKMITE8
12-23-2007, 10:43 PM
I'm surprised there is so much hate for Spider Man 3 which was the most legitimately entertaining film of the Blockbuster season (IMO).
I think you're missing the point. It's "disappointments" not "worst flicks". This thread's not about quality, it's all about EXPECTATIONS measured against DELIVERY... which make it even more subjective than your average opinion.

Keith Fordyce
12-25-2007, 03:04 AM
2 Girls 1 Cup.

Seriously, one of my so called "friends" tricked me into clicking on a link that sent me to that video. Five seconds in, and I'm still puking.

I'm seriously disappointed with that friend, and humanity in general. What the fucking fuck, I know there is sick shit out there, but don't film it, and god damn it, don't send me a link telling me it's something else.

If you don't know what that sick shit is, do yourself a favor, don't google it, just forget about it.

Oh, and Superbad was mildly disappointing for me, because of all the critics and friends I respect immensely led me to believe I would enjoy it alot more than I did. It's an intelligent, sometimes very funny flick, but it really didn't do it for me as a whole. It did make me love Michael Cera that much more, though.

Supremo
12-25-2007, 11:31 AM
I actually would add Once to my list. After months and months of hype, I watched it over the weekend and...well, let's just say it wasn't my thing. It's quite possible that I have no soul. I need to look into that.

Sharpel007
12-25-2007, 06:00 PM
Golden Compass by a country mile, the writing was on the wall now that I think about it, but the casting and the look where right so I blindy ignored the directorial issues and the lack of balls from New Line regarding any stance on any thing in the movie.

Insert long hard sigh here _ _ _!

One hopes the hour plus that was rumored to be cut is all on the DVD and will lessen the pain, that is until the BBC & HBO coproduction miniseries. Hey one can dream.

Andrew Eaton
12-25-2007, 07:11 PM
I actually would add Once to my list. After months and months of hype, I watched it over the weekend and...well, let's just say it wasn't my thing. It's quite possible that I have no soul. I need to look into that.

Supremo, if it wasn't Christmas, I would fight you.

Asking the rest of you as someone who hasn't seen it yet, will There Will Be Blood disappoint? I'm not easily disappointed by movies so I guess it's not a big deal for me. I'm in this phase where I'm just impressed if something's remotely entertaining. On top of that I try to see at least one movie in theaters a week and most are duds, so my standards get lowered I suppose.

But my question stands. I'm probably seeing TWBB in 2 weeks, or as soon as it goes wider to include Texas. Just curious.

Anyawatchin Angel
12-25-2007, 07:56 PM
I actually would add Once to my list. After months and months of hype, I watched it over the weekend and...well, let's just say it wasn't my thing. It's quite possible that I have no soul. I need to look into that.
No need to look, you have no soul. Not sure how someone can't atleast like that movie. Just gets better each time. Love Lies.

Not much to add. Just agree on POTC 3 and Spidey.

Stardust would be the opposite of disappointment. Great surprise.

JacknifeJohnny
12-25-2007, 08:58 PM
Superbad, especially next to the layered and focused Knocked Up. Superbad isn't poop in a flaming bag or anything, I just felt it's shelf life ended the moment I walked out of the theater, and I have to say that there probably isn't a performance in it that coasts the delicacy achieved by Leslie Mann in KU.

Just having seen the very, very fun Charlie Wilson's War and the forgivingly predictable, often affected, but still very well-rounded and charming Juno in the past two days, only pushes Superbad further down the list of the truly deserving.

I won't be finding out about Dewey Cox anytime soon either, I love Reilly, but I just couldn't get over how completely south of funny it looked.

Phil!
12-25-2007, 09:15 PM
Superbad, especially next to the layered and focused Knocked Up. Superbad isn't poop in a flaming bag or anything, I just felt it's shelf life ended the moment I walked out of the theater, and I have to say that there probably isn't a performance in it that coasts the delicacy achieved by Leslie Mann in KU.

Why should there be? I don't get critically comparing Superbad to Knocked Up. I'd compare Superbad- favorably- to Dazed & Confused or Fast Times At Ridgemont High, but not to a romantic comedy about late 20-somethings dealing with an unexpected pregnancy. Comparing KU to 40 Year Old Virgin seems more valid, but as much as the Apatow Empire thing seems to tempt people to cram Superbad in with Knocked Up, the movies came from different writers and directors. Greg Mottola doesn't get enough credit for Superbad, by the way.

(Yes, Apatow produced both. And Bud Yorkin produced both Blade Runner and Sanford and Son. Discuss.)

JacknifeJohnny
12-26-2007, 02:17 AM
I've considered that, and though both films come from the same camp in only a roundabout away, the reason I actually feel I need to compare them is based on the idea that both share a similar theme, hard won emotional maturity, and both comedies appeal to the sensibilities of the exact same set.

Ignoring their birth in the same workshop, and simply judging them from the position of coming from the same genre, I don't think the broad gags in Superbad hold up very well. They burn out just as quickly as they come on, failing to endear you to the film's central theme, thereby exposing the lack of precision in the script.
Halfway through Superbad, despite really liking Jonah Hill and especially Michael Cera (who carries that film on his back like a champ), I realized that I didn't care about the journey of the main characters and it damaged my ability to enjoy the film.

TheMonsterZero
12-26-2007, 02:20 AM
It's been put in nearly every post in this thread but I must, must, put a few words behind the crushing disappointment that is Spider-Man 3.

I mean... Christ. How does that happen? Don't tell me, I know all the stories... but how the fuck does that happen? How do you make something so fantastic, so nearly perfect, so crowd-pleasing, so innovative, so solid and then follow it up with utter garbage. SM3 is bad all it's own, with no thought of SM2- it is instead, infuriating when compared to SM2.

Spider-Man 3 is not a mediocre movie that disappoints in comparison to 2. Spider-Man 3 is a horrific pile of shit that does not disappoint, so much as baffle, when compared to 2. It manages to take every element, so well done in 2, and systematically piss on it. I will not take the few moments of gold it posesses away from it, but Ghost Rider and Daredevil have a few interesting elements too...

Spider-Man 3 is atrocious.

I hate to be melodramatic but I've been waiting for a long time to put pen to paper on my thoughts of that movie. Moving on........



Halloween was a massive disappointment for me. I've been a Zombie (music) fan for a number of years and was quite excited when he broke into movies. I think H1K is good/bad and The Devil's Rejects is fantastic. So when Halloween turned out to be a bland, boring, stupid movie - it made me upset. House was at least an interesting mess of a bad movie, Halloween was just creatively bankrupt.

While there are a great deal of redeeming factors, I was sad that Eastern Promises was not a better movie.

Live Free Or Die Hard pissed me off something awful too.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Across The Universe too, eugh.

erik myers
12-26-2007, 08:00 AM
Total agreement over SUPERBAD. It was laugh-worthy and all, but after a while, I felt like I couldn't relate whatsoever. At 31, I can still appreciate high school films/television done properly (FREAKS AND GEEKS), but SUPERBAD started to make me feel really fucking old. In fact, I kinda hated myself for laughing at it. I hate myself even more now for remembering laughing. You know what? On second thought, fuck that movie.

Quarant
12-26-2007, 08:15 AM
LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD... Took a massive shit over one of my truly favourite trilogies of all time. And fuck all those people who were "pleasantly surprised" or "thought it was pretty good" - have they even seen a DIE HARD movie in their lives? THE FIFTH ELEMENT (which I hate) is closer to a Die Hard movie than this piece of shit.

Cameron Hughes
12-31-2007, 09:32 PM
Total agreement over SUPERBAD. It was laugh-worthy and all, but after a while, I felt like I couldn't relate whatsoever. At 31, I can still appreciate high school films/television done properly (FREAKS AND GEEKS), but SUPERBAD started to make me feel really fucking old. In fact, I kinda hated myself for laughing at it. I hate myself even more now for remembering laughing. You know what? On second thought, fuck that movie.


I hope I never feel bad for enjoying a good comedy

gamranaut
01-01-2008, 10:13 AM
Total agreement over SUPERBAD. It was laugh-worthy and all, but after a while, I felt like I couldn't relate whatsoever. At 31, I can still appreciate high school films/television done properly (FREAKS AND GEEKS), but SUPERBAD started to make me feel really fucking old. In fact, I kinda hated myself for laughing at it. I hate myself even more now for remembering laughing. You know what? On second thought, fuck that movie.

I agree with a lot of this statement. I didn't feel this way while I was watching it, but while I was leaving the theater, I was wondering to myself whether I still should find this kind of thing funny at age 32. I watched it again on DVD this past month and I got the same feeling. So, I'm not really sure whether the movie was bad or whether it caused me to have some sort of slight existential crisis.

Another disappointment was the aforementioned "Sunshine". After reading all of the press declaring it the new Blade Runner, I had really high expectations for it. And those expectations were being met, somewhat, for the first 2/3 of the movie. I'm not going to ruin the flick for those who haven't seen it, but most of you know about one of the most notoriously terrible third acts in recent movie history.

Also, the Spiderman 3 thing. Usually I don't have any expectations for summer blockbusters, especially sequels. I didn't really like the first Spiderman but I loved the second one, so I had raised expectations
for number three. With Sam Raimi in charge, I knew that it would at least be kind of weird. What a surprise!!! It was terrible! It was boring! It made me consider leaving the theater before it was over, which is something I NEVER do, because I really didn't care what happened.