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- By Nick Nunziata
- Published 11/22/2009
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Author's Note: This article is extremely redundant and a self aware exercise in futility.I hate Twilight pretty much as passionately as anything I've ever hated before.
Including Tim D., the teenager who attacked a friend and I as kids and burned my face with a pizza. Including Cliff F., the guy who stole all of our musical equipment in the early 90's. Including terrorism. I think Twilight dethrones Wayne's World as my most hated film phenomenon. Which is saying something, because if you've been around me when one of those Kim Basinger DirecTV ads comes on with Dana Carvey's horrible life presence in it, I can barely see through all the hate. Seriously, I hate Dana Carvey with the fury of twelve suns.
That said, my hate for Twilight is a healthy hate. Though I joke about it and exaggerate what I'd like to happen to fans of the material, it's always had a playful vibe to it because it's true that there are always things in popular culture that defy logic. Stuff that's popular for no apparent reason due to its lack of quality, overt manipulation of its audience, and various other mystifying elements. Hating Twilight is easy for an adult, someone who has embraced bullshit in their youthful blindness and come out the other side shaking their head in disgrace. You have to have those love affairs with noxious chaff to become lucid and in possession of better common sense when your decisions and passions carry actual weight. Twilight is a stepping stone for young folks, and that's fine.
The adults who embrace this dogshit I have no sympathy for. I really feel that anyone over 21 who owns a t-shirt, can recite passages, camped out for the premiere, or makes relationship decisions with Edward Cullen as a barometer is a sad human being. I'll go as far as to say you're not really an adult if you're infatuated with this crap. Once you wash the stink off, you have permission to be considered a grown human being but I'm watching you. Oh, and if you dress up as one of these characters and are over 21, you need to trip and fall into lava. If you dress as ANY character and are over 21, peruse the calendar and if the date isn't late October... enjoy lava.
This new vampire and zombie infatuation is the new disco. That's all. When it crashes down, it'll crash down HARD. The Bay City Rollers [not disco, but still] sold between 200-300 MILLION records after all. Don't see a lot of folks clamoring for them these days. Don't see a lot of rabid Monkees fans declaring themselves members of Team Tork or Team Dolenz. This too shall pass...
But my innocent hate might not be so innocent next weekend.
Twilight has blown past The Dark Knight as the highest grossing opener of all time, and looks to place between #4 and #1 of all time when it comes to opening weekends. Granted, there are about four million extra women living in the states than men and this is the rare female film franchise. Titanic was what it was because of the dames. There's reasons Oprah Winfrey is a hectillionaire and none of them are penises. If you're a lady and you're under 21, good on ya. Enjoy what you built. Your dollars and zeal have led to a tonal shift in the cultural landscape. If you're 35, I hope your holes seal up. In a nice way. Also enjoying this phenomenon: The Mormon Church. Lucifer. Cthulhu.
This kind of success puts New Moon into FILM HISTORY. It's listed alongside actual movies. This hurts my feeling*.
If New Moon (Devin's unbiased review) doesn't drop a massive amount in its second weekend, what does it mean for a guy like me? I mean, can it affect the movie business as anything but some retarded anomaly we all have to endure? The all-time domestic top ten includes a fucking Shrek film. It's not like the film business is a beacon of what is just in the world. There's a Saw franchise that keeps suckering in a percentage of society. Film, like life, is a raging cocksucker sometimes.
But what if bean counters consider this phenomenon something more than the deep pocketed abortion that it is?
I mean, I'm trying to make movies. Genre movies. Ones that are good and smart that contribute to the foundations they pay respect to and exist because of. I'm involved in a movie that will be released globally in 2010 that is built on a bedrock of talent, class, and a love of what came before. How does something like that factor into a marketplace where nuance, grace, and a classical approach aren't rewarded but greeted with puzzlement? Not that my movie [not 'mine' in the authorial sense, as I'm a producer only] lives in the same world as New Moon, but our two leading characters are females, albeit multi-dimensional and believable ones. Maybe even examples of the characteristics one would like to see in leading characters. Ones led by logic and real emotion.
I've had a lot of those gut check experiences on my little mediocre journey in this career. The movie business seems to have these checkpoints that really try the soul. For example:
I've written a zombie screenplay that is without a doubt better than 95% of the zombie films I've seen in ten years. But I dare not try and get it made now. Not in this fucked up world where people are buying bullshit like Pride and Prejudice with Zombies at the bookstore and there are hundreds of iPhone apps that add "with zombies" to them in hopes of grabbing the dumbasses who equate 'zombie' with 'good'.
Adversely:
You want products that lower the bar. It makes the good stuff that much better. Even Underworld buries the fuck out of Twilight. So, if nothing else these movies are an apéritif between better meals.
I am fully aware that making fun of Twilight is like beating up the quadriplegic leper that sits in the corner of cafeteria, but each time I think the lunacy has reached critical mass something happens to remind me how very little I actually know. I start to dread a reality where Hollywood does the boneheaded thing it did in the wake of the Tolkien movies, and belch out a steady stream of mediocre fantasy films. And The Lord of the Rings was majestic! Twilight is a billy club to the pubic bone.
By all accounts, the upcoming Daybreakers is a really good flick. I love the trailers and the movie seems to have actually created a world rather than just ejaculate supernal creatures into a Sweet Valley High novel. It will fail. Probably. The only way I see a legit property coming out featuring vampires is by sheer force of talent (Guillermo del Toro's The Strain poses a chance). Of course, New Moon introduces horribly rendered shirtless werewolves to the mire of vampires. Difference is; werewolves are amazing. And being a glutton for punishment, one of my next projects is a werewolf one. Times like these make me wish I stayed in school longer and gotten my degree as a Master of Racism.
Or does Twilight not even qualify as horror? Is it some bizarre tween thing that doesn't even affect the genre?
Either way, it's a colossus of putrescence that bodes worse for the race than any hadron collider or rogue comet ever could.
So in closing, Twilight still is a goddamn nightmare. It makes me hate the business I'm in. Makes me seethe knowing that taking shortcuts around creativity is rewarded. Makes me loathe how relentlessly our young and impressionable are being gathered and flocked unknowingly into a vampy concentration camp. Makes me want to kung fu Stephenie Meyer right in the nipple.
And yes I am a hypocrite because I have read none of the books, seen none of the movies, and have read Dracula.
I'll leave you with a great picture composer Christopher Drake (a swell chap) posted on his Facebook page (origin unknown):

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Comments
Comment #1 (Posted by jeffrey butler)
and the numbers this weekend are going to allow any fans of this franchise that i know, to say "i told you so! twilight is AMAZING!!! It broke records! you're the one who is stupid!"
this weekend makes me want to punch.
Comment #2 (Posted by Alan Smithee)
Snipes you magnificent bastard. Cut off that pretenders painted on abs, then lets talk about what it'll take to get you into The Art of War part 4: Warhol Lives!
Comment #3 (Posted by FOR THE ATTENTION OF THE TALENTLESS WRITERS OF CHU)
Well as much as i hate he TWISHITE franchise, i have to say, are females not entitled to a franchise they love ? Does all love have to be spilled on male orientated media ? Just to pick you up on your (SCRIPT WHICH IS BETTER THAN MOST ZOMBIE SCRIPTS) well how about that, a writer that says his work is better than others, how strange that is. Get a life, and get a drive to pursue what little talent you have. May i also ask why indeed does 99% of chuds articals contain references to racism ? is this your new thing ? GROW UP. take a sip from babys bottle, and take your fucking meds. People choose what thay want, not because some hack backdoor site tells tham too. Is it any wonder this website is known as the lowest of the low in online circles ? "PEOPLE DONT LIKE WHAT I LIKE" so im going to rag on the entire franchise and call the fans idiots. Tell me Chud, do you like AVATAR ? Do you treat movies unbiased here ? the simple answer is NO. but everyone is entitled to thier opinions. So here is mine. This websote is PISS POOR, the layout is the worst of its kind. The writers find it hard to stay on track and string together even the most basic of structures. So if this site is any indicator. Your script must be shoody as hell. Why dont the people who maintain this hell hole go take a look in the mirror, then backflip out of a window, get hit by oncoming traffic, and bounced stright into a flame pit. Seriously if i ever see any of you at Comic Con, (N,Y_S,D) or any other event i swear i will not be held accountable for my actions. MY HATRED OF YOU SO CALLED PEOPLE, BURNS BRIGHTER THAN A THOUSAND SUNS GONE SUPERNOVA. And if your pissed now, come December 18th Devin and the rest of you may just errupt into flames. I hope you cross my headlights sometime, that will be gods way of telling me to speed up.
Comment #4 (Posted by Hanover Fist)
Enough with the complete relativism when it comes to quality. It is not as simple as "Good is what I like and Bad is what I don't like." Twilight is bad. Not because I don't like it, but because by every measure of quality (popularity is not a measure of quality) Twilight fails. Miserably. There are plenty of things that I like that I know are crap. Likewise there are things I don't like that I know are quality. It is the inability of Twi-tards to make this distinction that is the heart of much of my annoyance. If most Twi-tards were saying "I know it's crappy, but I kinda like it anyway" I think many would be much less offended, but when they demand that Twilight be recognized as the high quality phenomenon that they say it is, well...it pisses people off.
Comment #5 (Posted by nyc street trash)
i agree with all the points wholeheartedly. but, the almighty but, nick you co-produced grizzly park, which is one of the WORST nature survival movies. ever. a real piece of shit. i mean c'mon, how do you fuck up a movie with a bear eating people? you did. so you all suck.
Comment #6 (Posted by Palmer)
...at least this shit didn't beat Dark Knight's opening. Yeah, yeah, even if it had, so what?! But as it stands, I still have a little faith in the movie going public left in me. Hopefully, 5 years from now when the then 17-year-old girls and the fags look back at this, they'll realise just what a pile of shit they fell for.
Comment #7 (Posted by whocares?)
you should be embarrassed about yourself shooting such hatred over a product aimed at women. who gives a shit, just so you can have another load of virgins who have more women pay attention to a fictional character than them.
I can care less about twilight, never read the books or the seen the movies, but please bro.
I actually agree with that fat load kevin smith, when he says how can a fucking guy dress up as darth vader insult a bunch of girls into vampires.
also since you're not fatrachi,
i'll go easy on you since you're not
annoying like he is.
Comment #8 (Posted by keepoffthegrass)
to FTAOTTWOC,
"GROW UP. take a sip from babys bottle, and take your fucking meds."
....that doesnt make sense. Do you want them to be mature or immature? Do you want babies to take meds? Is that some sort of adult baby fetish thing? Just confused.
I've been visiting this site for years and never realized it was a backdoor site. Devin, you should have been charging 9.99 a month for that kind of access.
I actually like the layout. Aside from the huge pop-up ads (which chud at least recognizes) I find it easy to find reviews and articles I want to re-read. Unlike other movie sites (aicn) which is just sentences on top of sentences.
But I DO agree with you that the ladies dont really have alot of franchises that are really popular and geared toward them. Plenty of strong female characters, but not many franchises...
Which is a shame, if Twilight was actually "good" it could really be something that changes the game....but instead 5 yrs from now its fans will have moved on. What does Bella Swan DO anyway? Her actions seem motivated by all the men in her life...and when they arent around, shes just moping.
Comment #9 (Posted by Zach)
Nick, you need to pull your head out of your ass. Any "author" that's so in love with himself that he calls his own work better than 95% of everything else in the genre, is obviously a damn fool and needs to call it quits. Fail.
Comment #10 (Posted by WHO CARES?)
Who gives a flying fuck if Twilight makes money? Oh yeah, middle aged fat ass "internet movie critics" that write for 4th rate internet movie sites. And I'm guessing that Daybreakers is going to be just as shitty as that awful Trick R Treat movie this site pimped out.
Comment #11 (Posted by Nick liked Equilibrium)
So he obviously knows shit about quality.
Oh, and Jan De Bont is a horrible director...until he decides to direct a movie Nick's involved in. See, quality is relative!
Comment #12 (Posted by Frank Ulysses Charleston King)
Dear oh dear Zach. In fact it is you need to pull your head out of your ass Zach. How embarrassing for you Zach. You're wrong Zach. Scientifically and artistically wrong Zach. The truth is that any author who doesn't think his work is 95% better than the rest of the genre should quit Zach. No writer who doubts themselves is worth reading Zach. Oh Zach. So young Zach. So young and so naive.
Comment #13 (Posted by [A])
It's just a sad world, whaddya gonna do. This piece of crap is also breaking BO records in my country..
Comment #14 (Posted by infrequent CHUD visitor)
Nick, let it go and shut the fuck up. Your nerd rants stopped being funny or interesting years ago.
Comment #15 (Posted by Gwai Lo)
"The Lord of the Rings was majestic! Twilight is a billy club to the pubic bone." I chortled.
Comment #16 (Posted by Sleestak Labia)
I've seen Twilight and it's no Bridger. Although I do despise this franchise as nothing more than a new spin on Harlequin romance novels gone all Anne Rice, I have to say that anything full of Nick hatred is usually full of some goodness. I'm confused now. Do I hate the fat internet geek with no taste or hate the fat internet wannabe filmmaker with absolutely no talent and the spite of a billion sons? Such a tough decison.
Comment #17 (Posted by an unknown user)
Thank God for Aint It Cool News.
Comment #18 (Posted by Bob)
I like how being a fan of Twilight is still less sad than being a fan of Nick Nunziata's music, or Nick Nunziata's comics, or Nick Nunziata's thoughts.
Comment #19 (Posted by Scott)
Nick, I'd take your insights a lot more seriously if you condemned male geeks as well as female geeks. That is, every guy over the age of 21 who got excited for Indiana Jones 4, Transformers 1 and 2, Terminator: Salvation, Star Trek, G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra, Live Free or Die Hard, X-Men: The Last Stand, or Snakes on a Plane. Because those were God damn awful (I know I'm in the minority for Star Trek, but whatever, the rest certainly stand).
I realize this would alienate a good deal of your readership, but at least there'd be some sort of logic about the whole affair. Hate on geek culture, don't hate on geek culture, but don't say "these geeks are okay, but these are bad geeks."
Comment #20 (Posted by Roy)
I enjoy breakfast foods. Especially sweet ones.
Comment #21 (Posted by NestleSnipesFTW)
That last pic the the funniest fucking thing I've seen all day! I salute you sir!
Comment #22 (Posted by Glen Manning)
Who attacked a friend and me. And me. Who attacked I? Jesus.
Comment #23 (Posted by Grammar Authority)
It's me. The "for dummies" trick is to remove the rest of the sentence and test it. "Who attacked --- me."
But we all know undermining a post for its grammar is for those who live under bridges.
Self indulgence aside, Nick is right. It is sad for art that New Moon's box office will make it part of film history.
Comment #24 (Posted by ChiselledBeef)
Clare Dames was in Titanic?
Comment #25 (Posted by a bored reader)
@Scott - "Nick, I'd take your insights a lot more seriously if you condemned male geeks as well as female geeks. That is, every guy over the age of 21 who got excited for Indiana Jones 4, Transformers 1 and 2, Terminator: Salvation, Star Trek, G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra, Live Free or Die Hard, X-Men: The Last Stand, or Snakes on a Plane." EXACTLY. Chud is rapidly becoming AICN's bitter little stepbrother.
Comment #26 (Posted by Tom)
Nothing wrong with getting excited. It is fucking retarded to love something after the fact if it truly sucks. And guess what, this is an opinion-based business. You're all right and you're all wrong. I love & hate CHUD at times. What's the difference?
Comment #27 (Posted by Chuck)
Great article man, hilarious and true. I believe the best thing we can do about this crap is to ignore it and its inevitable imitators. I respectfully refused letting my girlfriend drag me to it and I suggest other guys do as well.
Comment #28 (Posted by T)
Please write "Fuck This Face 1,000 Times", everytime I see a mag with these kids with that f'n "look" I just want to wipe it off.
Comment #29 (Posted by dave r)
I guess i just don't see the point in being mad about what appeals to the lowest common denominator. I've been in a band for years, and toured, and worked very, very hard to get attention. We never got any. I used to be very bitter about it...i would constantly question why people suddenly all loved Vampire Weekend, or Spoon, or any other "indie" bands over my wonderful hard working band. Then i realized...you can't force people to like stuff. If you're an artist, and it's what you want to do, you can find a way to be successful in your own corner of the world. I think Twilight is retarded, but so what? The masses very rarely gravitate toward creative endeavors that push boundaries, and it'll only get worse as culture continues to accelerate and peoples' memories and attention spans get shorter. My band will not be playing in front of 3000 people this weekend, and i am will not make a lot of money. We will play in front of 200, and i'll barely pay my rent, and that's just what happens sometimes. You can't spend your time being bitter. Make things you're proud of and they'll find an audience, even if it's not as big as Twilight's. The only thing you have any control over is how hard you work. You can't control luck, or people's taste, or cultural movements.
Comment #30 (Posted by Movie Lover)
As a movie lover I enjoy all cinema, no matter how bad it is or what kind of hype it gets. I thought the first Twilight was a hilariously awkward comedy. Unfortunately New Moon wasn't has laugh inducing as the the first, and there were 2 camera shots that I liked. Otherwise the movie was rather bland.
Nick, why not put your Zombie movie out now? Is it because you don't want to make money. True zombie fans will enjoy it. Others will eat it up. If it really is a good zombie movie than you arent a sell out. Bruno Mattei's last film was a zombie movie, yours maybe as well.
Comment #31 (Posted by Q)
Some people get this kind of smug, self-superior bitter whining out of their system in sophomore English class.
Those people are called ‘professionals’.
Comment #32 (Posted by Three Oranges)
One thing that you're missing about Twilight is how mainstream it is. The sad seacows in black and their emaciated homosexual boyfriends that are the hardcore fanbase aren't making the kind of dollars these films are making. There are women who are more "normal" than any I'd ever associate with who are digging the hell out of this series when they've never participated in any other genre fiction. This brings the boringest of the freaky freakies and the saddest of the straights together in the same way Harry Potter did, but since the characters didn't start as little children they could get right to the sex. You can't just hate this with a Devin-style, hypocritical nerd-loathing ... because the straights are being bent by this, too.
Comment #33 (Posted by The Truth)
Well, since dipshit Nunzatalent is the only one really getting made fun of again, I'm guessing we'll see the talkbacks get shut down again very soon. Can you at least post the rest of your shitty comics and give us a chance to rip them apart before you take away the talkbacks again?
Comment #34 (Posted by John B)
To start I hate this franchise just as much as nick, as a piece of art, but even this crap has a silver lining. It is pulling women into genre literature and movies like nothing else has in recent memory, probably ever. After it's fashion it is working like a gateway drug. Working in a book store I've seen and dealt with the horrible middle aged women that this was not meant for and found them sad and with no hope of redemption. Grown women talking in masturbatory tones about boys to young for their daughters.
Occasionally however I hear a young fan who wants a more grown up version something with more depth. These young women are finding their way to other science fiction, fantasy and horror that they may not have been interested in before. Someday we'll hopefully get some truly inspired works of genre literature and film making from these young girls. It is a hope.
Comment #35 (Posted by Critical Bliss)
Nick, this is the studio. We want that zombie script. We're just wondering if you can have them shave their chests and date this mormon bitch named Bella. Give us a call.
Comment #36 (Posted by Mr Rekshun)
I love reading all the comments from people pretending they don't like Twilight in order to give their CHUD hate some credibility. Why are they here? Why are they not enjoying lava? Face it, Twilight appeals to people with the emotional intelligence of 13 year old girls. Nick hit the nail on the head. Keep up the good work, man.
Comment #37 (Posted by nickaless)
you hate waynes world as much as twilight? pretty sure seeing David Spade in a DirectTV ad with Farley is worse.. at least you got the stupid out of your system early in your useless rant..
Comment #38 (Posted by Craig)
So Brain Guy from MST3K is a Twilight fan?
Comment #39 (Posted by Dale Van Brocklin)
Doesn't this sadly show the "smarter, more enlightened than thou" typical attitude among critics? They raged against Transformers 2, the public loved it. The rage against Twilight, the public loves it. They EMBRACE movies like Where The Wild Things Are, everyone I know who saw it hated it, and actually WARNED everyone to stay away. I think it's kind of silly to see critics rage against this stuff. I'll give you the answers you're looking for: This is the stuff people REALLY want to see. Deal with it, nerds and critics. Check out Youtube. Check the number of views on video subjects. Music videos, millions of views. Discussions on science....not even hundreds. Girl talking about movies....a few hits. Girl talking about movies with huge breasts showing cleavage...thousands of hits. Girl on couch talking about whatever subject, 30 views. Girl on couch talking about same subject, wearing pantyhose and no shoes, 20,000 views.
Giant, transforming robots beating the crap out each other intercut with hot chicks, buff military guys, and sophmoric humor - earns hundreds of millions of dollars. Thought provoking, depressing, weird-ass movie critics go gaga over - earns hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Comment #40 (Posted by Craig)
I bet I can pick out the Twilight fans in this comments section.
Comment #41 (Posted by IronM@sk)
I had to laugh yesterday when I made a comment on a facebook friends wall poking fun at the movie and the fact she was on her way to see it for the second time. She and half her friends list went fucking batshit at me, defending it with a fervor that would put a Scientologist to shame. She is in her mid to late 30's, so I had to laugh when I read this article.
Comment #42 (Posted by Johnothan Pedak)
Your hate is infectious... but then "The Twilight Saga" is akin to AIDS.
Comment #43 (Posted by Brisco)
I can confirm that Daybreakers is indeed good, I saw it at TIFF this year.




