REVIEW: NEW MOON
- By Devin Faraci
- Published 11/19/2009
- Reviews
The most surprising thing about New Moon, the second film in the Twilight series, is how much worse it is than the first. Saddled with a low budget and a cast of thespians better suited for catalog work than the rigors of emoting, Twilight nevertheless had a certain charm. The unfairly maligned Catherine Hardwicke seemed to get the joke, that the massive angst felt by Bella and her mopey undead beau Edward was silly, and she played it with a certain deadpan straight-faced quality that both empathized with and deflated it. The film was deeply problematic, beginning with the exceptionally uninspired source material, but there was a life to the teen romance that is almost totally missing from New Moon.In the few moments where new director Chris Weitz finds that life the movie threatens to become watchable. But then he and the idiotic script conspire to kill the moment, to smother any natural charisma the actors might be tempted to display and to get ham-fisted and obvious. What's worse is that there's no movie here - the film is without any sort of real throughline and just meanders through non-event after non-event. I'm sure this shoddy structure comes from the novel, but this isn't exactly holy writ being adapted here - screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg should have found a way to give this 'story' (and I'm seriously using that term loosely) form.
In this shapeless installment heroine Bella is turning 18 and getting all worked up that she'll get old and Edward never will. The best way to sum up this film is to explain that it opens with a dream sequence that perfectly explains this dilemma using heavy handed symbolism and the proceeds to cram in ten minutes of scenes where Bella just keeps on saying what we have already come to quickly understand. The film is a nightmare of exposition, filled with montages that have voice overs where Bella explains exactly what is happening and how she feels about it, and then followed up by scenes where Bella tells other people what is happening and how she feels about it. This story and these characters are not very complex, so why did Weitz and Rosenberg feel the need to deliver exposition for every single plot point and emotional moment.
What's even worse is that this exposition will come at the end of long, boring sequences where absolutely nothing happens and will replace actual story or suspense. The film will spend ten minutes with Bella and her new potential boyfriend, the shirt-allergic Native American Jacob, as they do fuck all and then will have another character walk into the scene and cram in a mouthful of exposition. At two hours long this is baffling - the movie surely has enough time to show us stuff, but Weitz never comes realized that we'd like a story told here.
Speaking of Jacob - he's the one redeeming factor in this film. Especially if you're a pedophile; Jacob and his buddies spend approximately 90% of the movie topless, exposing their supple boyflesh. Larry Clark would watch this movie and feel it was over the top. But Jacob has two things over Edward, when it comes to being a boyfriend: he doesn't mope all the fucking time and he turns into a huge, hilarious looking werewolf. All of his buddies do - they become monstrous CGI wolfboys who patrol the forests and kill evil vampires. The CG wolves are awful, but in a delightful way, and a scene where two werewolves tussle recalled the epic CGI polar bear fight from The Golden Compass; maybe unconvincing animal fights are Chris Weitz' trademark. But even though everything about them is terrible they're at least interesting and have some sort of energy, unlike the morose and boring Cullen clan of vampires. Taylor Lautner (who looks sort of like Matt Damon's FAS brother) may not be a great actor, or even a passable one, but he's got some kind of screen presence, quite unlike the seemingly two-dimensional Robert Pattinson. I guess this puts me in Team Jacob.
Twilight felt tiny in scope and scale; New Moon supposedly widens the world, bringing in werewolves and a poncey ruling board of vampires in Italy, but it still feels claustrophobically small. I don't know that I've ever seen a fantasy world filled with less imagination or ambition. It's like Stephenie Meyer had one original idea - the truly ludicrous concept that vampires sparkle in the sun* - and then just gave up. The mythology of this world is so lackluster and unoriginal that I can't understand where it grabs legions of women. This is vampires and werewolves for people whose interest in werewolves and vampires usually dries up on November 1st. But even the 'global' nature of this story - the film's ho hum climax takes place and was shot in Italy - feels small. Weitz managed to take a crew to Italy and capture nothing that looked like it couldn't have been created on the Universal backlot.
So if the mythology is paper thin, it must be the characters that keep drawing people in. Except that Bella is barely a character, and it's embarrassing watching Kristen Stewart have to play this absolute zero of a human being. Defined only by the men in her life, unable to do anything on her own, completely helpless in every way (there are a bizarre number of scenes where men drive Bella's truck for her, as if she's incapable of such an indelicate task as hitting the brakes), Bella is a retrograde nightmare. If the Twilight books had been written by a man many of the grown women I know who love the series would have been disgusted by the appalling misogyny on display. Other, better writers have covered the series' Cro-Magnon take on sexual politics better than I could, but I will say that as it relates to New Moon these sexual politics essentially sink the movie. Bella's only emotional modes are horribly needy and annoyingly depressed; spending time with this character is torture. That anyone could relate to her on any level frightens me; I have to assume that it's Bella's utter blankness and emptiness as a character that allows girls to project themselves into her hollow shell.
Edward's entire story arc is dictated by a plebian reference to Romeo & Juliet early on in the film, and Robert Pattinson continues to show that he was gifted with nothing that makes him appropriate as a screen actor. Other actors enter the fray and are similarly mauled by the material; Michael Sheen should just get a weekend gig as a barista if he needs money this badly. He plays the leader of the Volturi, the vampire ruling group, and while he's at least seemingly having some fun by hamming it up, it's still a career low. And this guy has been in the Underworld films.
New Moon just sort of meanders along for most of its running time and then it suddenly tries to pull off a suspense scene and a climax, both of which fail in simply objective cinematic terms. And then it sort of peters out, slowly grinding to a halt on a 'cliffhanger' moment. By the time the movie was over I simply couldn't care what would happen next; I was bored and irritated by this movie in equal measures. The budget is bigger and the endless series of montages were slicker, but New Moon is a film without a soul, just like protagonist Edward fears about himself. Twilight was scrappy and silly and endearingly po-faced; Weitz brings some 'humor' into New Moon but never injects any life into the proceedings. I'm sure fans will be happy to watch actors pantomime the scenes from the books but they've already proven themselves to be among the least discerning consumer since the people who bought Mountain Dew Code Red. Summit has learned that these girls will eat up any old shit, and they're content to give them any old shit.
By the way, Chris Weitz has announced his intention to retire from directing. After this and The Golden Compass the only sane reaction to this news can be 'Good.'
By the way, Chris Weitz has announced his intention to retire from directing. After this and The Golden Compass the only sane reaction to this news can be 'Good.'
2 out of 10
* spoiler I guess: In this film Edward plans to force the ruling vampire council to kill him by breaking the vamp law of exposing himself to the world by walking in sunlight. Real question: Why would anyone who saw him sulking about sparkling in the noon sun think he was a vampire? They'd just think he was an extra in a Lady Gaga video.
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Comments
Comment #1 (Posted by TheColonel)
I feel sorry that you watched this, but better you than me. Terrific review.
Question for everyone out there: Is Twilight the Sarah Palin of fantasy book series?
Comment #2 (Posted by Tim)
How dare you Devin!
I like Mountain Dew Code Red
Comment #3 (Posted by 88 Inches)
"I have to assume that it's Bella's utter blankness and emptiness as a character that allows girls to project themselves into her hollow shell." You have GOT to be on to something here. There has to be some explanation for its popularity, and this must be it. Its popularity says a lot about where our youth actually are in this culture, which is profoundly below where we'd want them to be in terms of defining themselves as leaders and just people in general. Great review.
Comment #4 (Posted by Ninhead)
Well said, Devin. Intelligent and well-written. It shows the kind of logic that is gonna piss the hell out of all the emo kids. Can't wait for them to show up.
Comment #5 (Posted by Jess)
I wish critics and others would stop overanalyzing what makes a franchise like Twilight so popular. Obviously there is something about the books/movies people enjoy. The simple truth is that it's a love story. That's why people enjoy it. Is it realistic? No. It's not supposed to be. Do young girls want a blood-sucking vampire boyfriend? No. But they want to be wanted. It's not rocket science.
Comment #6 (Posted by Mark@BloodyGoodHorror)
But, but, but...boys with their shirts off!
Comment #7 (Posted by Three Oranges)
I'm pretty sure that digging shirtless 18-year-old dudes doesn't make one a pedophile. Just gay or straight, depending on the gender of the observer. Also, "This is vampires and werewolves for people whose interest in werewolves and vampires usually dries up on November 1st." Replace "vampires and werewolves" with"magic" and "on November 1st" with "after childhood," and you have a pretty good description of Harry Potter.
Comment #8 (Posted by Eli)
The kid is 16, Three Oranges. But why bother knowing what you're talking about when you can just be cunty in the comments?
Comment #9 (Posted by Marc)
It's a critic's job to analyze art.
Also the fact that lonely desperate girls like this in the same way that lonely desperate boys like crappy sf does not make this good art.
Comment #10 (Posted by Betsy)
This is the 2nd review I've read about this movie I have no intention of watching. I consider this the equivalent of getting a tattoo in a shop, with clean hygienic needles, a sober friendly artist and my sister to tell me how brave I am, instead of going to jail and letting a skin-head with a pen+rubber band+ vibrator engine tattoo a teardrop suicidely near my eye. I get the same effect (the knowledge I will not enjoy this movie) without the trauma to proving this film is vapid and idiotic and poorly made.
Comment #11 (Posted by Rob)
Great review, but you hit the nail on the head with the hallow shell theory. Look at hair metal and then the Nirvana/Pearl Jam clone bands to come out in the 90's like Bush and Silverchair. There's nothing there, but it seems like there is. And the same grown women who read Twilight are likely the same grown women who have been watching Guiding Light and The Bold & The Beautiful THEIR ENTIRE LIFE.
Comment #12 (Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace)
"The simple truth is that it's a love story" is really about the most generic, overly vague explanation I've ever heard. That's covering way too much material there. It's like saying "Well, movies where stuff is blowing up every 30 seconds are SUPPOSED to be dumb, so give it a pass". Just as there are good dumb movies and bad dumb movies, there are great love stories and awful love stories. In fact, some of the best love stories aren't just straight-up "boy meets girl and they talk about how much they love each other for 2 hours" tales.
Comment #13 (Posted by nomore)
I'm at work and I have my shirt off right now but all I'm getting is "gasp" and stares off disgust
Comment #14 (Posted by Chareth Cutestory)
Despite my complete lack of interest in this movie, this review was well-written and entertaining. Thanks for taking one for the team Devin.
Comment #15 (Posted by Wayne Campbell)
I do hate you, Devin, but: "Taylor Lautner (who looks sort of like Matt Damon's FAS brother) may not be a great actor, or even a passable one, but he's got some kind of screen presence, quite unlike the seemingly two-dimensional Robert Pattinson. I guess this puts me in Team Jacob. ".....
That made me laugh.
Comment #16 (Posted by Blake)
Nice Lady Gaga joke!
Comment #17 (Posted by some cunt.)
BBBBut Devin, I thought you liked children's movies.
Comment #18 (Posted by Brian)
Bye bye Chris Weitz.
Comment #19 (Posted by whupps)
Harry Potter = Enraged Evangelicals. Twilight = Mormon Funding. Harry Potter FTW.
Comment #20 (Posted by Sean)
This will make so much money that Chris Weitz will be given a free pass to direct again, if he wants to. Nobody in the big leather chairs will look at the quality of his direction, but rather at the size of the receipts.
Comment #21 (Posted by mrm1138)
@Eli,
That would make one an ephebophile, then, not a pedophile. Pedophilia is a preference for prepubescent children.
Comment #22 (Posted by joe-l)
my wife actually read all the books and hated them (i think she just enjoyed the 'sexy vampire' and campy-ness). she said the first one was bad and the second was terrible, so it makes sense that the second movie would be worse. also, these movies are for girls, dumb girls, or girls that enjoy dumb movies that have attractive dumb people in them.
Comment #23 (Posted by Beakerbeatz)
(TheColonel)
you asked "is twilight the Sarah Palin of fantasy book series..."
You may be right. Complete idiocy meets inexplicable mass appeal. Leaving the rest of us to scratch our heads in confusion and disbelief... (you say she may run for president in 2012? you say people have been camping out for tickets? Am I being punk'd? Seriously where's the camera?)
Comment #24 (Posted by Jacob Cullen Sparklynipples)
I'm not as concerned about the 14 year old girls who latch onto this terribly written series as I am about the older girls and women. There are a kajillion romance books that are so much more intelligent and well-written than the abysmal Twilight books and yet mature, supposedly discerning women flock to the imbecility of Meyer's prose. They set their gender back half a century and keep the door open for the vapidity of Sarah Palin to continue to haunt us. Anyway, sorry you had to sit through this idiotic, artless travesty of a movie Devin, turns out being head-writer for CHUD isn't all glamour and glory.
Comment #25 (Posted by Harry P.)
how DARE you talk shit about Mountain Dew Code Red, Devin!!!??
Comment #26 (Posted by drunkenwisconsin)
I've come to terms with women liking shitty material, after all, soap operas are almost solely driven by ratings provided by that group. The worst part about twilight fans though, is the completely insane obsession and defense of material that could realistically be written by a freshman in high school. Perhaps what worries me the most, is one day I'll be reading a book about 21st century culture and if I see Twilight as a pivotal moment or cultural cornerstone in our society, I'm surely going to off myself. With that said, all you silly ladies out there..enjoy your campy book/ film, but keep that shit to yourselves.
Comment #27 (Posted by michelle)
"Summit has learned that these girls will eat up any old shit, and they're content to give them any old shit".
its so harsh but its true. This movie is only for twilight die hard fans, i doubt that a simple fan, but with a bit of sense common, or a non fan enjoyed this travesty of film.
Thanks to god there are girls who have good taste and dont like this crap.
Comment #28 (Posted by Zachra)
They stole that Team Whoever shit from LOST, the assholes.
Comment #29 (Posted by Matt)
Hilarious reviews like this one, and the ones that followed Trasformers 2, almost justify the existence of these abominations. Almost.
Comment #30 (Posted by an unknown user)
To continue with the Sarah Palin/Twilight metaphor: Both spawn developmentally challenged kids.
Comment #31 (Posted by Madcapper)
I enjoy reading the reviews on the net for this film. It seems film critics are all writing flaming articles. Kind of makes me want to se the bloody thing. More interesting is the fact that I find almost no one defending Twilight or New Moon. Not in TBs, not in reviews.
Comment #32 (Posted by /b/)
Didn't you once write an article about American Beauty detailing how guys who lust after underaged post-pubescents are not technically pedophiles?
Comment #33 (Posted by Glen Manning)
Pedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children. You meant ephebophile.
Comment #34 (Posted by Mountain Dew Code Red Strike Force)
BASTERD!! Also, excellent review Devin.
Comment #35 (Posted by Linda)
Why is it that men can't wait to bash anything that could possibly be a "chick flick" with alll the venom they can muster. Talk about mysogeny well it is well represented here that is for sure. Of course sitting for 5 or 6 hours in front of some stupid football game or wrestling match is so much superior right??? Oh but we can't attack that can we. Stupid teenage boys suck and that is pretty much all they are interested in for all of their lives. And then they grow into sad and sorry adults or even worse...movie critics who probably spend their free time watching porno of young teenage girls. I won't bore you with the titles of those little flicks but safe to say that while you are all bashing young teenage girls "guys" there is a fair amount of money being spent on them in those "other" movies. In defending and speaking up for my gender I say READ girls read anything you want and watch anything that makes you happy because these toads cannot possibly ever understand that the story is not about sex or vampires or anything other than how we hope someone will love us someday. Don't forget too that these male reviewers are the same ones who thought No Country for Old Men was so wonderful and frankly I thought it was a stupid, violent piece of trash. Not for one second could I figure out what value it had other than appealing to these half brain neanderthals who spend their monday nights tide to football games since they were potty trained. Oops I forgot some of you aren't able to achieve that very well by 5 like us girls. Of course the teenage girls who grew up to be your Mothers had to deal with that mess. I may have gone to see this film once but now I'm gonna buy 10 tickets and just hand them out to say screw you to all the bashers of teenage girls and the critics of them and the books and movies they love. I'm gonna help in my own way to make the gross on this movie huge!
Comment #36 (Posted by 2509 - timd)
linda: my favorite tv show ever is my so called life.
twilight is worse than herpes.
Comment #37 (Posted by JS Partisan)
You like 2012. No one gives two shits about your opinion on this film. Besides other young men, who use beards to give them a semblance of a chin.
Comment #38 (Posted by an unknown user)
hey, I kinda like Code Red
Comment #39 (Posted by TheColonel)
Yeah, Linda, Up and Moulin Rouge, two movies Devin loves, are real guy movies. He's so sexist, right?
Comment #40 (Posted by Industrykiller!)
Poster #35 "Linda": You're vapid and clearly tone deaf to nuance and theme. That is all.
Comment #41 (Posted by Ryan)
I dare say Linda is projecting her misandry onto us. Who said anything about football games?
Comment #42 (Posted by unitdoom)
ditto with #40/41
Comment #43 (Posted by britt)
let me tell u guys why girls like twilight. first of all, most of the fans happened to pick up the book called twilight, like me, and liked it. it doesnt mean they are crazy or obsessed. i personally wanted to see the movie to see if it matched up with the movie. it didnt, but it was still fun to see the book come to life. im also going to see the second movie and do the same thing. girls like it because they like the books. when you first read them you come up with characters in your head. then you see real people, becoming those charaters and its fun to watch, even if they are poor actors. and for the poeple who didnt read the books, i dont know whats wrong with them because twilight really wasnt that good and if i didnt read the book and get an understanding of twilight first, the movie would probably seem really dumb and confusing to me
Comment #44 (Posted by Mr Rekshun)
The reason these films are appealing, I think, is ironically because they are so emotionally dishonest. They present "love" as the ideal, characterised by obsession. In other words - the Tween girl idea of what constitutes love. These characters are emotionally maladjusted, but Meyers seems to present these unhealthy emotional obsessions as something that people should aspire to. It's like she's trying to cultivate a generation of emotionally retarded bunny boilers.
Comment #45 (Posted by Muzz)
Looks like you guys brought comments back just in time.
Comment #46 (Posted by MichaelScott)
Linda is a perfect example of the women that Devin talked about and only affirmed what we've all been saying, that the target audience for this shite are the same people that have zero self esteem, live vicariously through shitty music, soap operas, empty books and soulless love stories that give them an feaux hope that love will come to boring, depressed fat chicks who have way too many cats.
Comment #47 (Posted by chad)
I am so sick of people equating this with emo! I was in an emo band twelve years ago and can assure it had nothing to do with melodrama or make-up. For Christ's sake, look up Reversal of Man or Orchid to know what emo is!
Comment #48 (Posted by thaimyshu)
I don't understand this site sometimes. Harry Potter(2009) was one of the worst movies in years, and I think Devin gave it a 9/10 or something ridiculous. The whole movie could be summed up with "ugly British kid finds a book." Furthermore, New Moon has shirtless teenagers, and Harry Potter has effeminate youths flying around on brooms through hula-hoops - one appeals to pedo's, the other to... So Twilight is for lonely, empty girls and Harry Potter is for lonely, empty boys? Please, someone, help me to understand.
Comment #49 (Posted by Critical Bliss)
Check out Massawyrm's review on aintitcool. It's a work of art.
I haven't seen the films or read the books, but it's amazing what tween girls (and gay teens) will buy. 100 million in the first weekend.
Comment #50 (Posted by Alice)
I watched the first movie with my younger sisters and even though they said the books were really corny I was sort of intrigued, so I read them. I was really disturbed by the gross misogyny presented (apparently unabashedly) by Meyer. I wish parents cared at all what their daughters read. The worst is in the last book when Edward injects Bella in the heart with a large syringe filled with his life-saving "venom" in order to make her more attractive and powerful, not to mention immortal. I think I threw up a little bit in my mouth. These books are poison for young girls, who identify with Bella because (a) they like themselves a lot and will happily believe that every hunky male within a ten mile radius feels similarly and (b) it's pretty cool to think that you could spend eternity hanging out and like, listening to music, and being really rich without working, and driving fancy cars, and snuggling with RPatz instead of ever sleeping, and crying at romantic movies, and going to high school forever....I mean, what more could a girl really dream of??
That said, I had a GREAT time at this second movie. I have never laughed so hard in my entire life, even though I was getting popcorn thrown at me.
Comment #51 (Posted by Reginald Mantle)
#35 Linda-
"...the story is not about sex or vampires or anything other than how we hope someone will love us someday."
You're in for a very long wait, simpleton.
Comment #52 (Posted by BloodSugar)
Amazing review. Keep up the good work.
Comment #53 (Posted by allin)
Pedophilia! Any woman or man over the age or 18 that is interested in this movie is a pedophile or has pedophile tendencies. The unfortunate part of this is that pedophilia has been allowed in the advertising industry. Just look at Abercrombie.
Comment #54 (Posted by JinxKit)
The fact is that the Twilight series of novels is a phenomena that spans all ages of women. Stephanie Myers has tapped into a story that connects deeply to a woman's concept of love no matter what age she is. It is not JUST a love story, it goes so much deeper than that. The reasons are numerous, too many to be discussed here. I am confused about the anger and contempt that some people are exhibiting against the people that LOVE these books. If you can figure out why women LOVE these book, you will figure out the secret of women. Much love to all!
Comment #55 (Posted by Alicia)
NEW MOON IS THE BEST
Comment #56 (Posted by TeamFatty)
Man, so glad the talkbacks were brought back for the Twilight hazing. Between the review and the comments, I'm tempted to go see the movie (didn't see the first; no idea what they're about other than vampires, brooding and bad hair) just for the laughs. But, then again, I'm not a big enough dick to go out of my way to ruin someone elses good time just for a laugh.
Now, I demand MOAAAAAR!
Comment #57 (Posted by Roberta)
IT'S FICTION PEOPLE....for those of you who don't know the meaning of fiction: (1) Prose works, such as novels and short stories, that tell about IMAGINARY CHARACTERS AND EVENTS.
(2) something make up or imagined, as a story, explanation, or statement.
Comment #58 (Posted by an unknown user)
It seems the studio's intent to keep these films faithful to their source material has damned them. The novel New Moon suffers from all the same problems (the suffocating melodrama, bland characters, and awful dialogue) and I'm not surprised these problems have indeed translated to the silver screen. At least the devoted fans will be happy.
Comment #59 (Posted by sparklemotion)
this movie has all the appeal of walking by an Abercrombie&Fitch store in the mall.. soul-less.. at least emochicks have a new role model ----- "Bella's only emotional modes are horribly needy and annoyingly depressed; spending time with this character is torture. That anyone could relate to her on any level frightens me; I have to assume that it's Bella's utter blankness and emptiness as a character that allows girls to project themselves into her hollow shell." this is worse for society than any religious quandary..
Comment #60 (Posted by Sidewinder)
With reference to post 35.
Linda, I applaud you. You said it all!!
These 'men' just simply don't get it. The Twilight saga is simply a love story. Evidently there are too many here who wouldn't know about that. Shame.
Comment #61 (Posted by lack of better word )
The secret to woman nowadays is programming.
Fuck the Twilight franchise.
Comment #62 (Posted by novaats)
I went to the cinema to see this with my girlfriend (excuse made) and I have to say the best bit was when they showed the pair doing a slow motion run in a wood with 70s clothes on - the whole place burst out laughing at the woman in front of me (in the UK where cinema goers are typically quiet through films) actually went "WHAT THE HELL.".
I did enjoy that bit.
Comment #63 (Posted by CinematicMasochist/MediocreHaiku-ist)
Transformers 2: check
In the Name of the King: soon
New Moon: after that
Comment #64 (Posted by nightgeek)
What upsets me about the hate directed at the Twilight series is a complete disregard for the fact that the series is not for you. So you're telling me that a movie made for teenage girls based on a book written for teenage girls is not going to appeal to the fat ugly nerd-fanboys that have never been in love?
Its kinda gross thinking that the ugly overweight hateful nerds are spending their time watching these movies and reading the books for the sole purpose to hate on it. Theres nothing to be said about your sad pop culture obsessed/consumer driven little lives that hasn't been said already.
Whatever... 3rd biggest opening of all time, this series isn't going anywhere. pwnt.
Comment #65 (Posted by Rusty Hinge)
Yes, the movie had the third biggest opening of all time...hence, criticism of its artistic merits is invalid.
Comment #66 (Posted by Critical Bliss)
Lady Gaga = Comedic Gold
Well played, sir.
Comment #67 (Posted by bitegeek)
"What upsets me about the hate directed at the Twilight series is a complete disregard for the fact that the series is not for you. So you're telling me that a movie made for fat ugly teenage girls based on a book written for fat ugly teenage girls is not going to appeal to the fat ugly nerd-fanboys that have never been in love? Its kinda gross thinking that the ugly overweight hateful nerds are spending their time watching these movies and reading the books for the sole purpose to hate on it. Theres nothing to be said about your sad pop culture obsessed/consumer driven little lives that hasn't been said already. Whatever... 3rd biggest opening of all time, this series isn't going anywhere. I am a fat ugly teenage girl." ------------------------- Fixed
Comment #68 (Posted by Shari)
Very coherent review: finally one that focuses on what we've seen on-screen, rather than the hype surrounding it. I had similar thought in my review @ http://cinemaroll.com/horror/new-moon-a-flick-for-the-fans/
Comment #69 (Posted by Movie Lover)
I enjoyed the Larry Clark joke more than any of the other jokes. There were a couple good camera shots in this film. SPOILER. One where Bella was just sitting in her room depressed and the camera circled around her showing what season it was, but it also displayed the month in text. Its not a great movie, just mindless entertainment for nerdy women. Just like Hatchet is mindless entertainment for me.
Comment #70 (Posted by Zaka Khan)
Hey I found it highly offensive that you would compare New Moon watchers with Mountain Dew Code Red drinkers. Don't insult Code Red like that lol, it has way more personality than Ms. Meyers' books, that can best be summed up as romeo and juliet meets interview with a vampire meets a Nora Roberts novel in hell
Comment #71 (Posted by Reggie Mantle)
Number 60 (Sidewinder) said:
With reference to post 35. Linda, I applaud you. You said it all!! These 'men' just simply don't get it. The Twilight saga is simply a love story. Evidently there are too many here who wouldn't know about that. Shame.
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Yes, I think we all get that it's supposed to be a love story. It's not that complicated. The issue that many of us have it that's a <i>trite</i> love story with horrible dialogue and boring characters.
Let's not even get into the terrible message being sent; that looks are the most important thing, and that a woman is nothing without her man.
Also, why are you putting the word "men" in quotes like that? Are you implying that it takes an appreciation for <i>Twilight</i> to make someone a real man?
Comment #72 (Posted by JC)
Wow.. okay.. if you know you are going to hate it then don't watch it.. simple as that. This movie was made for fans of the book. You keep bashing the plot.. when the plot takes place how it does in the book. Then movie is just like the book and I enjoyed it. So stop being such a lame ass and get a girlfriend or go play more Halo.
Comment #73 (Posted by some chick)
Twilight lover girls shut the fuck up you make us all look bad.
And Linda, sure, No Country for Old Men is only liked by "male reviewers". Also? by the freaking Academy you dumb twat. Oh, and by me, and I have two X chromosomes
Comment #74 (Posted by RAS)
The famous "slow mo" scene of Bella and Edward running is, I think, a lazy made reference to the fourth book, when Bella, now a vampire, run with her husband for the first time, showing that she is even faster. The best part was the Victoria-wolves montage
Comment #75 (Posted by Griff)
"These 'men' just simply don't get it. The Twilight saga is simply a love story. Evidently there are too many here who wouldn't know about that. Shame. "
I know about love stories. Twilight is a bad one. In addition to 'love,' in order to have a story, you also need interesting characters and plot points that aren't completely insipid. And just because there are vampires and werewolves doesn't make this story interesting.
I'm not very fond of tragic love stories in general, since the characters usually ARE one-dimensional and don't develop past their 'love,' which I don't buy anyway. Any real love is built first on attraction, then grows and develops through companionship, affection, etc. It's not all about wanting each other to the point of suicide. So please don't talk about the tragic love story as something that is to be aspired to or envy. There's a reason they end in tragedy. You can have the most passionate relationship in the world and it will still mean nothing if the passion is all there is.
BUT if you still want a good tragic love story, just take the advice of New Moon itself and read or watch Romeo and Juliet instead. There's a reason people still continue to enjoy and study it hundreds of years later, and why Twilight will thankfully fade into nothingness and obscurity.
Comment #76 (Posted by Towlie McTowel)
Unfortunately, shirtless guys aren't quite enough to drag me to the theater to watch this piece of shit. Didn't see the first one, don't intend to see this one. After hearing fuck-all how "amazing" the books were from women I work with and seeing the truly rancid trailers for these films, I pretty much counted myself out of jumping on the "Twilight" bandwagon. Thank for your humorous and enlightening reviews for these craptacular films that I will never watch.
Comment #77 (Posted by Towlie McTowel)
And another thing: these women who are saying that men "don't get" love stories are sexist and completely inept. I "get" love stories. Some of my favorite fims are "love stories": Wall·E, Brokeback Mountain, Amelie, King Kong, Beautiful Thing, Once. All of those films focus on love. The reason I despise "Twilight" and will never subject myself to it, is not because it's a "love story", but because it's a badly-written, badly acted story about a clumsy, whiny, needy girl who has a relationship with a sparkly, blood-drinking fag. I'm tired of the "sexy vampire" cliches, I'm tired of the "teen romance soap opera" cliches, and I'm tired of badly acted movies with terrible special effects. Why would I want to see all of those things together? So bring on all the sexist comments from the ladies who feel they need to defend this crap; I don't care one way or the other, because it will not change my opinion about "Twilight" or the idiotic people who love it.
Comment #78 (Posted by NavyFireman)
I have never read any of these books, or seen the films, but it is insane how much rage it seems to cause in it's detractors, and also the loyalty it inspires in those that love the franchise. From what I can tell, it is empty and simple minded trash. One of those books your mom had tucked away in the bath room next to the toilet with Fabio on the front cover. You know, the ones you used to sneak a peek at before you discovered porn and noticed you had a penis and need not concern yourself with such trivial wastes of paper and time? Honestly, women always seem to get all excited over the idea of some sort of beast/monster/phantom/vampire love affair. I'm not sure what it is. Maybe just the fact that it is forbidden makes it seem attractive, and I guess because there are no beasts or phantoms or monsters, etc. in the world women feel the need to flock to any piece of fiction that will give them a chance to escape in that fantasy. Things like Twilight have been around for ever. Remember that Beauty and the Beast show on TV back in the 80's? Or more well known would be....Phantom of the Opera. This idea has been out there forever, albeit, it has never been so mishandled nor been done so poorly, but still, this is nothing new. But what Stephanie Meyer did different from everyone else before her is she took those fantasies, made them PG-13, and made it acceptable for young girls and older women to participate in the same fantasy. Give girls something they can group up on and it's all over. So now that same smutty novel's premise is back in a nicer, gentler wrapper and is able to be put next to the bedstand, not kept under three copies of Good Housekeeping so that the visitors don't see it. We all know Twilight is about forbidden love, forbidden sex, forbidden whatver. It's still garbage. It's still horribly written. It's still the worst thing to be hailed as something great since, well, just about ever. Women will wise up one day. They will realize that Edward is a figment of another desperate, lonely woman's imagination, and they will discover, I hope, real love at some point in their life. Not the movie magic love or Twilight love, but the real deal. No BS, just straight love and respect for another human being. You want to feel wanted? Well...if that's the draw...then I guess no one has ever wanted you, or you wouldn't be chasing that feeling down through a piece of trash novel written by a Mormon lunatic...now would you ladies?
Comment #79 (Posted by care)
I think the worst thing about twilight is how goddamn pretentious and needlessly referencing it is. Okay, you wanna draw some parallels to romeo and juliet? try having your story mirror it a little bit or throw in some subtle references to some key lines or symbolism. Don't have your characters do fucking monologues about romeo and juliet and how their situation is somehow the same and how you would react in their situation. same thing with bella's supposed love for wuthering heights and pride and prejudice. brb, referencing some of the three most commonly read classical works and pretending that makes me a true literary reader. i have to admit though, the pretentious monologues in the books were a lot better than the ones in the movies, which, aside from the r&j one, seemed to just be stuck in there at random whenever they decided we didn't remember how well-educated and smart bella was because of her idiotic actions.
Comment #80 (Posted by Alex)
My girlfriend read the books because she was curious as to what a mormon could or would write in regards to vampires - coming from a very strict religious background. She went through all of the books quickly and even remarked that it was almost impossible not to find them easy to read. That being said, she in the end came to the opinio that the books are awful. I tried to read them as well and was pretty much reminded why I'm glad to be long since out of high school.
I'm no stranger to the concept of a love story - and I'm certainly no stranger to bad fiction and this is certainly both. The main character is someone that should be avoided - not aspired to - and anyone who feels they have anything in common with Bella should rethink who their friends are and what they feel is important. Bella is a useless and feable character whose very existence undermines anything a real woman would strive to become.
I did see the first movie and we both thought it was 'different' - and almost too clean. Everything looked like a charicature, slightly exagerated but overall quite sterile. As for the second movie... well we decided to pass since we haven't come across anyone who actually liked it for a good reason such as story, cinematography, acting, etc.
Comment #81 (Posted by Mateo)
Wow, Devin. As usual, your review is spot on. What makes this one even better is how you pick apart this franchise and find nothing at its core.
Comment #82 (Posted by FlamingoRoad)
#22, why is your wife stupid enough to read 4 books she says she hates? If she's that stupid, I'm surprized she can read, or else you're an IDIOT for believing her.
Comment #83 (Posted by <3G=D)
alicia is right new moon is the best

