- Home
- Editorial
- The Devin's Advocate
- THE DEVIN'S ADVOCATE: THE TYRANNY OF REALISM
THE DEVIN'S ADVOCATE: THE TYRANNY OF REALISM
- By Devin Faraci
- Published 11/18/2009
- The Devin's Advocate

Tonight I watched 300 on Blu-Ray. I don't know how many times I've seen the film - enough that I can speak some of the dialogue along with the actors - but tonight I saw it through new eyes. I realized why I like the movie so much and why I revisit it again and again:
It's so ridiculously unrealistic.
Looking back at my original review in 2007 it seems like I was grappling with that aspect of the movie. I wrote: What's interesting is how Snyder deals with the heightened nature of the story - in action scenes, he's completely at home, but in all the slower moments the heightened aspects feel very, very silly. Snyder seems to miscalculate the line between heightened and ridiculous more than once; David Wenham's voice over constantly strays over this line, and what's worse than the silly tone in which he delivers the lines are the lines themselves. Much of the voice over seems taken directly from Miller's graphic novel, and Miller writes in the sort of hard boiled way that a 17 year old in black nail polish might write. In conjunction with his art, this stuff actually works (sometimes) but spoken out loud it's just outlandish. When Leonidas takes his leave of Gorgo, Wenham speaks Miller's dialogue like a parody of a pompous Shakespearean actor: "There is no room for softness. Not in Sparta. No place for weakness. Only the hard and strong may call themselves Spartans. Only the hard... Only the strong." I mean, that's just wretched, and I almost wonder if any filmmaker could make that work.
Well, yeah, it is wretched. But it actually totally works. Because what I was missing at the time is the fact that the heightened reality saturates every moment of the movie, that this is a film that has no interest in realism or in people behaving like people. It's about iconography and larger than life characters and a pulsating sense of coolness. There's never a moment that feels like anyone on set ever uttered the phrase 'Could that happen?' They just asked 'Is it awesome?'
There's more to 300 than just 'awesome.' I could go on for a long time about how Snyder gives himself an out of reality by having the entire film be a propaganda speech, for instance. And I'm still as fascinated by the movie's politics as I was in 2007. But this isn't a revisiting of 300 (although I may do that at some point) - this is a call to unreality.
We've become a culture that seems to prize reality very highly. It wasn't always this way; people weren't stupider in the 30s, they just didn't give as much of a shit that their entertainment be 'realistic.' It's why your grandparents didn't need some kind of device to explain why people were singing in a movie musical, it was just great to have people singing. Nobody cared how Superman managed to fly, it was just awesome that he did. And I suspect that adults watching The Wizard of Oz in 1939 weren't 'fooled' by the painted backdrops, they just enjoyed the scenery for what it was.
None of that happens anymore. Photoreal is the buzzword in special effects, despite the lingering, nagging feeling that many of us have that we will always be able to tell a scene contains major FX work. We're no longer interested in suspending our disbelief but in having it completely vaporized. Movies about giant robots punching each other or a guy dressing up in a batsuit to fight crime must be mired in realism, in backstory and in minutia. On top of that, we demand naturalistic acting at all times, which is why so many people think the exaggerated and theatrical acting style of 300 is just 'bad' acting.
Once upon a time this all made sense. By the time the 70s rolled around Hollywood movies had become bloated, soulless spectacle. Everything was phony as opposed to unreal, and a young generation fought back by going after the gritty and honest stuff. You need course corrections like that on occasion, to violently react to the status quo. But over time that 'realism' has become the status quo.
Obviously mainstream film in the 00s doesn't embrace realism the way it did in the 70s. So many films from that period have minimalist scores, and nobody was sweetening sound effects. 70s movies are almost eerily quiet as a result. And the stereotypical 70s film is one where the hero fails and then dies at the end. But while we've made some allowances technical aspects and happy endings, we're more rigorously devoted to the idea of 'reality' than ever before, even in things that are wholly unreal. It's why The Lord of the Rings is such a 00s kind of blockbuster - it's got politics and history and languages and exacting details. Middle Earth is so real you could almost move in. People complain about Lord of the Rings when the films dare try to be awesome, like when Legolas surfs down a staircase on a shield. That works because it's fun, not because it's feasible.
What I'm talking about here isn't absurdism or surrealism. Internal consistency isn't the same thing as realism; you don't need to explain why Gene Kelly is suddenly dancing in the (manifestly fake) streets in Singing in the Rain, but you do need that character to behave from scene to scene in a consistent way. The world of the movie must make sense in and of itself, but it doesn't need some kind of crazy elaborate backstory to set it up. I know that L Frank Baum went a touch JRR Tolkein in some of his later Oz books, but in the movie The Wizard of Oz Oz just is. We don't need a geographic survey of the different regions to be transported. The crew never had to leave Culver City to transport us there. And that doesn't look like any lion I've ever seen. But it works. Seventy years later, it completely works.
It reminds me of cartooning. Watching Pixar's Up I thought of something Scott McCloud wrote in Understanding Comics (and I'm paraphrasing here): the more abstract a cartoon image is the more universal it becomes. Pixar straddles the line by using cartoony figures and realistic backgrounds, sort of the opposite of old studio movies that put real people in front of fake backgrounds, but the effect is the same - it creates the perfect mix of reality and unreality. In Up it means that you can be completely immersed in the emotional aspects of the story (since it's taking place in a 'real' world, lending everything weight) while not being bothered by the idea that an old man can set his home aloft overnight by using helium balloons. Kelly splashing around in the water and singing is one of the most simply powerful moments in the history of cinema, and everything about it - from the sprinkler-provided rain to the set to the fact that a lone man in the streets has musical accompaniment - is unreal. But so powerfully real and true and wonderful.
Is it any coincidence that two of the best films of the year, both made by filmmakers who visibly chafe against 'realism' in their films, are kiddie movies? In the realm of the cartoon and the PG movie filmmakers like Wes Anderson and Spike Jonze can get away with things that would send viewers into rages in 'real' movies. Hell, the lack of a clear one to one relation between the Wild Things and Max's real life in Where the Wild Things Are makes some people annoyed.
In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see more 'adult' filmmakers dipping their toes into the kid movie waters. The Wachowski Brothers went there with Speed Racer; while the movie was a financial failure it was a success as a highly stylized, unreal film that is completely true at its heart. There's a freedom allowed in cartoons and kid films that used to exist in mainstream movies forty years ago, and it's a satisfying freedom for artists. Sometimes you want to just tell a story and as long story and the emotions behind it feel true, why does anything else matter? How does learning how Batman made his suit improve Batman?
Our current need for over-explanation and prequels and movies in general that start with the pitch "Did you ever wonder what would really happen if..."is boring. It's time for another course correction, and I think it's happening right around us right now. It's time to remember the joy of an actor playing broad, of movies that want to sing rather than brood. What I wouldn't give to be living in a cinematic environment where the Peter Parker dance routine in Spider-Man 3 was celebrated rather than mocked. I suspect that Wes Anderson, Spike Jonze, Guillermo del Toro, Zack Snyder, the folks at Pixar and many others agree with me.
Get unreal on our message boards.
Spread The Word
Comments
Comment #1 (Posted by Warren Peace)
THANK YOU for being one of the only ones to truly get 300 -- that is one of the most misunderstood films of the last few years. Here's something else that would explode people's heads: the story is completely character driven. Sure, the effects are no small thing but they're ALWAYS in sync with what's going on in the story. If the actors weren't doing their jobs that sense of "awesome" would fall utterly flat no matter how great the computer power was.
Anyway, as far as the main point goes, absolutely spot on. LOTR is an example of the perfect median between "realism" and the fantastic, it can go in and out of the two at will. Oddly enough, Galactica can also do this -- most of the time it's all about Cinéma vérité but isn't afraid to stop off for some Cylon weirdness.
Comment #2 (Posted by Fat belly beard)
The problem with 300 is that it wimps out of its own politics by the end. To quote Walter chaw: "It's not that Leonides is seen martyred in the end in a tableau explicitly meant to evoke the passion of St. Sebastian, but that he goes out pining for his wife like a lovesick hamster, thus completing 300's devolution from remorseless Spartan militarism into gushy democratic idealism and all manner of liberal maladies". And as far as realism goes, look at a movie like Hellboy 2 for example. Visually astounding, fantastic creature effects and a plot that has gigantic gaping holes on every page of its script. I'm not asking for realism, or an explanation for everything on screen, just that each scene be connected to another with more than just cool visuals and effects. How hard would it have been for the genius Del toro to put together a plot that makes some sense within the context of the fantasy (movie) universe he helped create?
Comment #3 (Posted by bubba)
We get it, Devin. You love Zack Snyder. Too bad the guy made Watchmen into a horrible shitty movie that for some reason you defend. Don't worry, you will still get praised on the nazi run message boards with cries of "Great Article!". Don't let that white guilt hurt you none.
Comment #4 (Posted by Jesus H. Christ)
Devin, would you please just shut the fuck up? These long rambling "oh my god, my uneducated viewpoint is so insightful" articles are just inane and awful to read. Stick to what you know best. Suckling at the teat of people who actually produce something for a living and reporting on the scraps they feed you.
Comment #5 (Posted by GiraffeChew)
This is why I love CHUD.
Comment #6 (Posted by Ogami Itto)
I'm sorry "300" is just wretched. If you like it, good for you, but glorified homoerotic fascism isn't really my thing (and sanitized homoeroticism at that). I'd have more respect for the movie if Leonidas was pining for one of his catamites instead of his wife.
Comment #7 (Posted by raketenpaul)
you definately got too much time on your hands! '300' isn't even worth mentioning again.
Comment #8 (Posted by Cushing1967)
This is an excellent article - and I agree completely - I really get pissed off with the desire for everything to be 'gritty and real' when these have just become buzzwords that, in many cases, have ceased to have any meaning whatsoever.
I like The Dark Knight a lot as a movie but it still exists in its own reality and needs to because Batman couldn't exist in this world.
There is room in the world for all types of movies, for all types of approach - there's no reason why you can't have something like The French Connection showing in the same cinema as something like The Wizard of Oz - well there shouldn't be.
But unfortunately we're in a world where the internet has made it easier for millions (billions) of people to think that their opinion matters a flying fuck to anyone else but them.
And I am aware of the irony of giving my opinion on a message board when none of you should care what I think.
We now have to deal with people saying '[Insert Name Here] was a terrible movie and you liked it so you're wrong because I thought it was terrible' on an anonymous, global scale.
I want trips to the movies to in some way recapture the joy and awe that I first felt seeing Star Wars or Superman and while I'm fully aware that unless I get something sharp in my head that ultimately leaves me with the same inexperience and intellect that I had when I was 10 it's unlikely.
It just seems a shame that so few people are even trying to give me a product that could even possibly come close to doing that!
Anyway, great article!!!
Comment #9 (Posted by MyOpusisHuge)
I often wonder at what point do commenter's stop reading the article and jump right into bashing or praising?
300 is used as an example to an interesting point that you may not agree with but it has merit. Devin can come off as a dick sometimes but I appreciate his attempts to generate a discussion instead of the usual my fanboy obsession is waaay better than your fanboy obsession shit.
Comment #10 (Posted by Sigh.)
Why? Why do I read the talkbacks? My faith in humanity gets shattered every time. Talk about the tyranny of realism...
Comment #11 (Posted by Ben)
It wasn't the unrealism of 300 that bugged me. It was the blatant fascism. No, I'm not talking about fascism with swastikas and black boots. This is 21st century fascism, where loathsome ideology is concealed behind grand superheroics. It's the kind of fascism that George Carlin tried to warn us about. It's a creepy, creepy, CREEPY movie, but not nearly as creepy as the people who keep dismissing my criticism as ridiculous nitpicking.
Comment #12 (Posted by Three Oranges)
Fair enough, but a call to action for filmmakers to do what some filmmakers have done since the beginning of film is a little silly. I say some filmmakers, because realism serves some stories, even fantastic, imaginative ones, whereas others require the more open world Devin seems to now want to shoehorn into all stories. And the examples of people resisting unreality are poor -- nobody objects to the Peter Parker dance scene or the Legolas surf scene because they're unrealistic. They object because those scenes are so wretchedly dorky.
Comment #13 (Posted by milton)
See, the thing is, it doesn't matter about realism or not. It matters if the director can make a good film or not. 300 is bad for many reasons - being realistic is the least of them.
Comment #14 (Posted by [A])
Just like SLASHFILM is the official Michael Bay fansite, maybe CHUD is the official Zack Snyder fansite..?
Comment #15 (Posted by Nightmonkey)
I like 300 without apology. I consider it the movie Spartans (or later, Romans) would have made about themselves. The freakish foreigners, the militarism, the morals espoused, the advent of modern democracy, etc. Letting a woman speak publicly, even the Queen, is the most unrealistic part of that story from its own internal viewpoint. While certainly not a history lesson, read your history and understand the ancient/classical viewpoint about their world. 300 was it. If it makes you uncomfortable, I applaud you - you are a modern person living safely in a first world country.
Comment #16 (Posted by Lucidz)
Fascism? Seriously? It was a god damned comic book movie. What is wrong with some of you people.
To the rest of you, wtf? Pining for his wife? Really? That is what you take from that. Be careful guys, your virginity is showing. Some of us that are married and have actually had sex would actually probably think of our wife if we were facing certain death.
Asshats.
Comment #17 (Posted by Hypocrite watch)
I can't wait to see another Avatar article about how fake the characters look.... Let me guess you want them to look LESS REAL.... Yawn.
Comment #18 (Posted by Steven)
After reading the entire article, and not focusing on any specific part that I have some sort of ideological political disagreement with, I would absolutely agree with you. Your point about special effects rings true in every 16 year old I hear at the theater complaining that the CGI didn't look real enough. Well, it's because it's NOT real. You and I both know that. Some of my favorite effects in movies have been obvious practical effects, such as the puppet Yoda in Empire, but the effects themselves aren't the point. It's the EFFECT they create for the film as a whole. Yoda is a fully realized character, despite being a Muppet. In the same way, Gollum in LOTR is a motion captured digital effect, but his character is also believable in the context of the story and films.
I love that you emphasized internal consistency over something being wholly realistic or unrealistic. One of my favorite films is Back to the Future, and it takes almost no effort at all to punch holes in just about all time travel theories, including that one. But the reason the time travel works in the BTTF films is not that it is thoroughly explained why it works or why it acts in the manner that it does. It works because it is said in the films, "This is how time travel works," and the filmmakers follow through with that idea. And often, it's the combination of the real and fantastical that makes many films work. Ghostbusters is a story about a bunch of guys who start a business and get really successful. But their business is capturing ghosts and they end up saving the world. Those are two concepts that are hard to combine, but the combination of the realistic and familiar with the paranormal and overblown (and some genuinely funny comedy) make this film work to this day, even with its "simple" optical effects.
Great article Devin.
Comment #19 (Posted by whitehair)
devin got into the pot and watched '300' again.. this article should explain to you why Watchmen blows.. Snyder only cares about the look of a film.. actors are just props.. thats why manhattan and his lack of clothes and substance stole the show..
Comment #20 (Posted by Huh?)
Sin City
Sky Captain
Shoot Em Up
Crank 1 & 2
The Spirit
Running Scared
Scanner Darkly
Donnie Darko
Then you add almost any Wes Anderson film. Oh and Von Trier's 'Dogma 95' style films. Plus the three you mentioned in your article and you have quite a few mainstream films going for something far from 'reality'.
I'm sure there are a ton more but that's just what I thought of off the top of my head. Also, the backgrounds in Pixar movies are not 'realistic' they are actually highly stylized as well.
Anyway f/x have always tried to be as photoreal as possible. Always. The only difference between now and the 'good ole days' is that they can almost achieve it today.
Comment #21 (Posted by Durrrrrh)
So Devin JUST realized that 300 is ridiculously unrealistic? I thought Devin prided himself on being smart. Because that's just a wee bit obvious, don't you fucking think???
Also, I don't think people need Batman to be realistic. But as kids everyone always asked where did Batman get the Batmobile and who fixed it and all of that. So it's cool to have a movie show it. We've seen Batman in enough unrealistic movies which people liked fine enough. They needed to make a change.
Comment #22 (Posted by Bruce Vayne)
Devin just can't resist showing his tortured hard-on for his hate of Batman. Shameless baiting for a few more hits. It really makes it more difficult to take this guy seriously, as time goes on.
Comment #23 (Posted by TheColonel)
Right on, Devin. There is a place for hardcore realism (Battle of Algiers, The Wind that Shakes the Barley, war pictures, even, yes, parts of the Nolan Batman movies), but it's just too prevalent these days. Why the hell should I care about every little doodad and gadget that spins around for a millisecond when an Autobot transforms? Just transform, damn it! I came here to see giant talking robots that blow shit up; I don't care about realism!
Oh, and for the folks calling Devin a hypocrite, it's not that he's upset that Avatar's CGI characters don't look real, it's that all the Avatar hype - from the filmmakers to the fans - would have you believe that they do. They don't! Accept it! Accept the fantasy! Accept the mystery! You can't have it both ways. Why worry so much if something is photoreal when you're going out of your way to make things really colorful and fantastic?
Oh, and small quibble about 300. I find myself getting caught up in it every time it's on. I don't believe in what the characters believe, but I'm able to accept that this a completely fabricated world. However, the voice over IS too much. It's just a distraction.
Comment #24 (Posted by A-COD)
Wow, to each his own, but I don't get some if the hate for 300. 300 and Snider's Dawn of the Dead are exhibit A & B for why I love movies. 300 isn't perfect but it's fun.
Good thoughts Devin. I'm with a lack of reality but it's all a question of where the film makers are taking us. I'd rather spend two hours in Nolan's gotham city than Schumaker's.
Comment #25 (Posted by Kates hairy anus)
Loved 300, hated spider man 3, The dancing part was retarded.
Comment #26 (Posted by Jazz)
I'd like to point out that the Peter Parker dance scene was actually very congruent with the character Raimi built. Peter Parker was established to be a total nerd. If he turned evil, there's no reason to think he'd be any cooler.
I think Devin hit the nail on the head as to why people dislike that scene.
Comment #27 (Posted by asfm)
I agree entirely with this aticle. 300 is probably my favourite film. Realism is also something that plagues computer games far too often. Realism can be great, but as often as not, it's the contrivances that keep the game from being realistic that also make it fun.
Comment #28 (Posted by Oh really)
"the Peter Parker dance scene was actually very congruent with the character Raimi built".... well, it still doesn't make that scene suck any less. So because he is a nerd he performs retarded musical numbers when he's eeeevil? It's a great scene to laugh at, and helps you realize that the Spider Man series kind of sucks to begin with, no matter how much you try and justify it's many flaws.
Comment #29 (Posted by Sunil C)
Realism is just as much an aesthetic choice as anything. Art by it's very nature is artificial. So true realism is impossible. Only matters how internally consistent the film is.
That's why I roll my eyes when Michael Haneke says he doesn't have music in his films because real life wouldn't have background music. Well yes but real wouldn't have scripts either.
Comment #30 (Posted by C8)
I'd love to have seen Speed Racer become a huge hit and usher in more films in this style. It'll happen eventually.
Comment #31 (Posted by Koko)
Excellent article.
Comment #32 (Posted by Palmer)
I completely agree, Devin. The problem is, that many people think they're "too cool" for hyper- or even unrealism. It's just "stupid" and enjoying it is a sign of "stupidity". It's basically amateur film criticism gone wrong.
Comment #33 (Posted by Troy)
Great article. Realism be damned -- despite how derided it is, the "evil Peter/dance sequence" is the only part in Spider-Man 3 I actually like. It was the only time it felt like Raimi and his actors were having any fun at all.
Comment #34 (Posted by an unknown user)
You Devin-haters are the sunshine of my life. You try so HARD that your delicious impotence is only thrown into sharper relief by the effort with which you deploy the hate. It hurts your very souls that a writer has opinions which differ to yours and that's both a comically tragic and a strangely uplifting thing.
Comment #35 (Posted by aaronk)
I was just talking about this the other day. Realism seems to be the only criteria by which to judge a film anymore. Nobody cares if the movies is good or bad as long as it is perceived as "real." Hollywood doesn't seem to know how to make a good film so they make a "real" one. It's probably a bi-product of our narcissistic culture where everything has to reflect some aspect of ourselves or else it is rejected. The movie universes are created in films now are super boring. It seems like the malleability of film is where all the creative stuff happens. No wonder we only get a few great films a year.
Comment #36 (Posted by thepassinglane)
bravo. well-articulated. thank you.
Comment #37 (Posted by Reading Comprehension)
Durrrrrh said, "So Devin JUST realized that 300 is ridiculously unrealistic?"
No... Devin said he just realized why he keeps REVISITING it. He knew it was unrealistic, he just didn't know that the feature was the primary reason he kept coming back for me.
Comment #38 (Posted by Yes, really.)
The Parker dance scene was a perfect fit with the tone of the film and the series, and works especially well when you consider the "Raindrops Keep Fallin On My Head" scene in Spidey 2. Raimi uses these musical numbers to actually advance the character, and make the audience laugh at the same time. He's aware that it's stupid. That's the joke. The movie had it's flaws, but that scene wasn't one of them. Excellent article. One of Devin's best.
Comment #39 (Posted by Obe1Obryant)
I loved, loved, loved this piece!
I was thinking the exact same thing when people were praising The Dark Knight and dumping on Batman Returns. Why is it that a film based on a comic book or cartoon, can't actually feel like a comic book or cartoon when you're watching it?
Great, great article, Devin!
Comment #40 (Posted by Colin)
The whole problem is that this cycle is just going to repeat itself over and over and over again. We'll have unreal spectacles for ten or twenty years and then we'll be going back to heightened reality whenever the next Cassavettes or Malick comes around and we'll always be unsatisfied after 7 or 8 years of each. It would be nice if the current trend could just be to do both.
Comment #41 (Posted by AndyB)
Great article. I actually through Spidey 3 was top quality right up to the 'fuck we've run out of time, right Mr Butler you explain this and right Mr newscaster you explain this - phew'. Dance scene was top quality because it got the point across without the need for such exposition.
Comment #42 (Posted by I am IRON MAN)
Fantastic analysis, Devin... you have definitely touched on an interesting aspect of today's movie goers and their expectations (or lack thereof).
Comment #43 (Posted by an unknown user)
Not sure why 300 deserves a not only a new review, but a case study in realism. Because, really, it doesn't. We've all seen it. We all have made an opinion at this point. Maybe reporting on a movie that not all of earth has seen would be better.
Comment #44 (Posted by Chris)
Justify all you like; 300 is still bilge.
Comment #45 (Posted by Kate)
Can you guys please leave Devin alone? What do you get out of attacking him?
Comment #46 (Posted by Nick)
I disagree. I don't think a revival of realism is what is spawning all these sequels and prequels. And singling out Nolans batman as one of the main offenders is ludicrous. No one was clamoring for a realistic batman. It was just what Nolan delivered and it happened to be fascinating. Sequels and prequels started when the Staw Wars prequels began. Sure Batman Begins was a reboot, but let's not be ignorant to the fact that the studio's are just looking for a sure thing. Are you telling me Transformers, G.I. Joe, or even Spider-man are going for realism? The lack of unbridled imagination is less a product of restrictions to realism and more a desire to re-use things that have worked.
Comment #47 (Posted by Mike)
I adore the detail and beauty of "Watchmen" and it has become one of my favorite films. I let the images wash over me, and with each viewing, I become more fond of the characters. Whereas, "300" left me cold. And all was looking for is some badass Spartan motherfuckers cutting dudes and monsters up. And I found to be all rather dull. How can violence be exciting in a universe where a big monster beast thing can have its head sliced off with little to no effort. Time distortion worked for the action in "Watchmen" because it displayed the unreal strength with which superheroes fight. But "300" would have rocked harder with half the slo-mo. And to all those searching for political implications fail to realize that shooting mothefuckers is always questionable, but whether its Chev Chelios or Chow Yun Fat or Eric Bana, aforementioned shit is always exciting. Great article, Devin. I remember when Bill Condon was praised for making "Chicago" "realistic" by suggesting many of the musical numbers take place in Roxie Hart's head. Genius? Bullshit! And I like Bill Condon. To paraphrase Jason Mewes, "Gods and Monster like a motherfucker!"
Comment #48 (Posted by JFGI)
#27- good point. I would much rather play Burnout than Gran Turismo, because the unreality is way more fun.
#34- great post. To all the devin haters- he writes most of the content for this site. He's opinionated, insightful, often wrong (IMHO) but more often right, and if you don't like it, FUCK OFF. No one is forcing you to slack off at work and read these articles (if you even bother to do that before posting).
PS. I object to these talkbacks, because it cheapens the site and smells of AICN.
Comment #49 (Posted by Departed)
That's hilarious. Devin hates Ninja Assassin for having unrealistic CGI and yet he completely contradicts himself with this stupid "article." My name's Devin, and I didn't like The Dark Knight, because it had too many dogs!!! Stop watching it, people! Stop!
Comment #50 (Posted by solartaco)
FIRST!
Comment #51 (Posted by g)
Awesome Advocate Devin, thank you.
And Nunz. PLEASE TURN THE COMMENTS BACK OFF. It's fucking internet cancer. Fuck you haters.
Comment #52 (Posted by the fireclown)
I'm just happy that he isn't linking everything to George Bush anymore And a little shocked that I agree with him on this matter.
Comment #53 (Posted by CJ)
Interesting article, and while I agree that the attempts to make CGI 'photoreal' have something to do with this trend toward realism, I feel like there's something else at play as well. The main problem with CGI in films isn't that it doesn't look real, it's that it doesn't look like it's actually part of the world that the rest of the characters are in. Instead, it often looks like what it is, interesting looking cartoons plastered onto film frames. In a way, it's still all about consistency. If you have a world filled with flesh and blood people, and, in middle of it, there's a two-dimensional cartoon, that's visually inconsistent. I feel like the attempt to make CG effects photoreal is an attempt to solve this problem, not just to make movies feel more "realistic".
Comment #54 (Posted by khkg)
People still crave gritty "realism." Look at District 9 vs. Avatar (which I am personally super excited to see).
Comment #55 (Posted by jon waldman)
the dance number in spider-man 3 is the reason i will defend that movie to the end
Comment #56 (Posted by 88 Inches)
This isn't ABOUT 300. It was used as an example to teach a point. Sad how many have missed that. That being said, thank you, Devin. I have a background in fine art and painting and it's the same thing. In fact, I was working on an illustration for one of my kids books and was rendering the shit out of it to make it better and it's not coming together. This reminder couldn't have come at a better time! People want things that LOOK as real as possible because they equate that with being better. And they try to explain what is happening in a work of art. Just enjoy it for what it is!! Really, thanks for the insight. So true.
Comment #57 (Posted by IndustryKiller!)
OK what the fuck is this nonsense. The SPider Man dance sequence lauded? WHy? It doesn't work in the context of the character of SPider Man in the least. it's totally and utterly indefensible. It doesn't work in terms of the character established int eh film, it it's an outright bastardization of the comic book . And no it doesn't matter if some god awful comic book writer once made Peter Parker dance in 1987 (I'm making that up) you don't copy the worst that a given 40 year old character has to offer. It's a horrible sequence in a horrible movie. You've never once defended it on any level Devin so if you are going to keep defending crap you better start working a little harder. Seriously what for you makes that sequence work? And dont say "because Peter Parker is a nerd" thats not even close to a decent justification.
Comment #58 (Posted by jingleheimer)
hopefully this is all just a justification for a 9outta10 review of 'The Blind Side'
Comment #59 (Posted by The Voice of Reason)
I disagree with Devin on maybe 80% of what he says. This, however, is spot on. We need unreality to make a comeback. We need a reason to go to theaters again, to be filled with that child-like wonder that is being trampled in the homogenized drek being thrust on us these days. We need Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers and ray guns and rocketships. We need dragons and legendary heroes. Conan, Sinbad, Hercules, all of them. Huge, larger-than-life performances that make our hairs stand up, and when the Hero, about to charge the enemy lines, cries out "Who's with me?" we, without shame or abandon, leap from our chairs and reply, "We are!" Because we truly are.
That's what we need again.
Comment #60 (Posted by SamiJane)
I agree wholeheartedly.
Well said. Even if I did HATE Where the Wild things are - it wasn't because of the imagination and breakdown in reality.
Comment #61 (Posted by Ben)
Nice article. Though it got me wondering, are all of these comments REAL? If so, shit, we've got bigger problems than misguided cinematic expectations.
Singin' in the Rain is great, by the way. I doubt many of these people have seen it.

