EXCLUSIVE: ROD LURIE TALKS THE STRAW DOGS REMAKE
- By Devin Faraci
- Published 11/20/2008
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Yesterday I had a chance to talk one on one with Rod Lurie, director of the upcoming First Amendment drama Nothing But the Truth. I had a lot of questions to ask him about his film, which stars Kate Beckinsale as a journalist who outs a Valerie Plame-like CIA agent and then goes to jail rather than give up her source, especially because as a former journalist and film critic Lurie has an intriguing point of view on the place of the Fourth Estate. But there was something I had to get out of the way first, and that was his pending remake of Sam Peckinpah's Straw Dogs. I intended to just touch on it and move on to other stuff, but it ended up dominating the conversation, and Lurie had lots of interesting things to say about the original film, remakes in general and his remake in particular. I'll have more with Lurie - including his thoughts on film critics, having been one himself - in the coming days. Are you still doing the Straw Dogs remake?
I told somebody you were interviewing me and I said, 'I bet we talk Straw Dogs.'
Sell me on it. Why remake Straw Dogs? What is the upside to that?
You tell me what is the downside?
There are a couple. Potentially, in the modern climate of the studio system, you take what is a really rough picture and it gets softened. You tone it down due to producer's notes - 'She can't like the rape.' On the other side, as a filmmaker, you're up against this film, and it seems unlikely that you'll be able to top it. I wonder why not just make a movie heavily inspired by Straw Dogs.
Well, because to be really honest with you, the title is a strong commercial element to making this film. And you're right - I've probably lost you already, Devin. I know that I've already lost you, and I've probably already lost the majority of critics before I shoot one frame of the film because there's a certain 'How dare you' mentality that will spread throughout the critical community. But I think that Straw Dogs as a story is eminently remakable. It can be modernized and Americanized without a problem and without giving up any artistic integrity. And it's not like you're remaking Citizen Kane, which was both idiosyncratic and iconoclastic when it came out. The appeal of something like that movie, or even a Peckinpah movie like The Wild Bunch, is the innovation within it, and that's something that cannot be replicated. Straw Dogs, to my mind, was not necessarily breaking any boundaries other than the depiction of women, and a rather seismic departure from the way any woman had been shown on screen, especially in terms of sexuality. The trick here is that doesn't become the focus of this film. I'm remaking Straw Dogs, I'm not remaking Sam Peckinpah's Straw Dogs. By that, Devin, I mean that I'm not necessarily trying to follow his themes. I'm not going to necessarily instill in audiences the same emotions that it instilled in audiences in 1971 when the film came out.
You talk specifically of the rape scene, and her enjoying it. And you know something? I've been dealing with the studio and I've not gotten that note. I've said, and maybe on your site, that you can be sure she's not going to smile in my movie. Well, what I meant by that is that it's not a shot for shot remake. I'm not going to put the smile in the same place. The rape is going to be unique, but in a different way than it was in Peckinpah's. I don't want to discuss it too much now because I want the audience to experience it when the film comes out. But I'll tell you this: I know of the truth of what the character of Amy was going through in that film because I had a long talk with Susan George. Amy's reaction in that film was created not by Peckinpah, and not by the screenplay, but by Susan George. It was her decision to react that way in the rape scene. She went with me through the backstory of the character, what the character was thinking, and I can't wait to talk to my actress about it, whoever that may be, and tell her what Susan George said. It's very interesting. There are a lot of know-it-alls who will try to tell me, but I'm just going to make my own film.
But what do you say to the contention that Hollywood is now just eating itself. In fifteen years what will be left to remake?
Yeah, the joke is that we're not running out of new ideas, we're running out of old ones too. I think that's true, and I think we have to be judicious about what wells we go back to. But I think we can put enough twists and turns into Straw Dogs that people will say, 'Yeah, that's interesting.' You can watch both films and, while comparisons are inevitable, they can both be seen as the different kinds of films that they are.
I'll say something else that's a little sacrilegious: I think Straw Dogs is a good movie that - and I bet you'll agree, Devin - that has a lot of problems.
Well, yeah, but that's part of the charm of the film, that it has this idiosyncratic weirdness.
Some people would call it charm, some people would call it flaws. There are elements in the film that are really bizarre. Kate Beckinsale told me recently, 'When you remake it and they have the siege at the end, you're not going to have that idiot with a clown nose riding around on a bike?' I said, 'No I am probably going to take that out.' I thought that was very tension-deflecting.
Peckinpah was famously hospitalized during the making of Straw Dogs for alcoholism. I think some of that has leaked through into the film. In fact, I spent a lot of time speaking to Dustin Hoffman about the movie, and Susan George, and other people who worked on it, and they feel that whatever hiccups are in the movie come from his being a bit... under the weather during the movie. These charmingidiosyncrasies you refer to are, I think, flaws. But the performances of the actors are spectacular. The theme of the film as Hoffman presented it to me is the lie of the liberal, that every man has in him the capacity for this violence. Peckinpah said that it's ultimately about the way men treat women. I'm going to take a different approach, which I don't want to get into now Devin with all due respect, because the minute I do - I guarantee this article you're writing on this site are going to be followed by talkbackers who say I'm a hack who doesn't understand this movie, or that I shouldn't be making this film. The truth is that Straw Dogs is a bit of a Rorschach test that people understand differently.
There are two things about your remake that intrigue me. First, you're bringing it to America.
Yeah, the American South.
Secondly there's your history dealing with women in film and women's issues. You're going to have a different angle, potentially.
What's really interesting is that I don't know if Peckinpah saw himself as a misogynist, but it's hard not to look at this film and feel that. There are two ways to look at it - the first time we see the character of Amy in Straw Dogs, all we see is her jiggling breasts. It's a close up on her breasts, jiggling. It's a very weird shot. Then you look at The Ballad of Cable Hogue, and the first time we see Stella Stevens, it's in a close up on her breasts. It's weird and it's certainly off-putting to women in the audience. The women are treated purely as sex objects. In Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia, the women are put through humiliating paces. But they're also the most human of the characters. The men are louts. The men can't control their sexual drives, and the women come across as eminently more sympathetic. Maybe when he's showing us Amy's breasts in Straw Dogs he's making the men in the audience complicit in the crimes that will be committed against her by saying 'This is how you view her.'
But I don't know that. I wish I could sit down and have a beer and smoke a cigar with Sam Peckinpah and have him tell me what was really on his mind.
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Comment #1 (Posted by you'reright123)
This guy is a hack who doesn't understand this movie! He shouldn't be making this film
Comment #2 (Posted by Straw That Broke The Camel's Back)
Really nice interview, Dev. Great questions.
He didn't sell me on the validity of the remake, but it was cool to see him try.
*I remember reading DH was pissed about the prospect.
Comment #3 (Posted by pacman)
Of course this film will take place in the American South because that's where all the rough neck rapists are. Fuck you. The whole Deliverance thing dried out years ago. Save the hillbillyploitation for Rob Zombie or Wrong Turn 3. The south has been the fastest growing region for the past 20 years. Lots of people have come from all over with lots of money for a more laid back lifestyle. The sub-culture of beer swilling swamp hoggers has shrunk to an imperceptibile dot. Rednecks are selling their land to open casinos and build mcmansion neighborhoods for wealthy foreigners. Y'all should come check it out, I promise we can afford all the hot Russian ass we want; we don't wanna fuck no californian pansy ass.
Comment #4 (Posted by Magnus)
What a piss poor attempt at validating what amounts to him being a total hack who can't pull a good movie from a great script so instead he's hoping to leverage some clout by remaking something he thinks most people won't have seen before.
You talked to the actress? Wow. That chick probably has to set an alarm to remind her to take her osteoporosis meds and you think she has vivid memories of Peckinpah calling her a cunt and pulling that performance out of her?
And why in the flailing fuck does this guy think he can lay down some multisylabic words in place of a point? Who are you trying to double speak? Proof is in the proverbial pudding, holmes and this movie is going to suck more dick than Bangkok.
Sam Peckinpah would have bitch slapped this retard and pissed on his face.
Comment #5 (Posted by Matt Goldberg)
Well, however it turns out, you can't say that he hasn't thought it through. Great interview, Dev. I can't wait to read the full thing.
Comment #6 (Posted by Lyt)
Magnus needs a hug.
Comment #7 (Posted by bpvalentine)
No, we're not even at the point of "how dare you?" You're movies are BAD, and that's why this news is a drag. I might ask Speilberg how dare he remake Old Boy, but he's a good filmmaker who at least has earned the right to fantasize that he could top the original, though he won't.
Comment #8 (Posted by Ed)
Man, I hate it when people call you by name when you're having a one-on-one conversation. Also, I agree that the completely obvious and played-out decision to set the film in the South does not bode well.
Comment #9 (Posted by crushwb)
pacman has a point ,dialing it into the deep south seems to be last vestiage of commercially acceptable racism/classism.
I will even have alternate spin on pacman's viewpoint. Through my biz I've even met the sub-culture of beer swilling swamp hoggers from most remote parts of the USA and although its a minority of them its a sizable minority that are actually progressive or highly anarchistic to the sterotype ,especially the youth that have seen the last eight years and Katrina !
I'm reminded of that tv-show about Alaska "Northern Exposure" that played against type.
If the story took place in a more generic rural setting such as "Pet Cemetary" or the "New South" then it will be more riveting as audience can't dismiss it as it not happening to them.
Comment #10 (Posted by PhukHue)
Magnus. You are my new demi-god! I haven't laughed that hard in days. Thanks
Comment #11 (Posted by Johnny)
I think Straw Dogs could be remade. Problem is 3 fold here Lurie, the rape scene that will be altered and the south setting. Those are missteps and huge ones.
Comment #12 (Posted by alirje)
Is the new generation of filmmakers totally against their betters? By betters I mean everyone who tried to save cinema by changing it starting from the sixties and ending in the mid-seventies, including Sam Peckinpah. Who are these fucking people who are somehow at the top but say things like "are you going to have that stupid clown bicycle scene removed"? I forsee, from historical experience, that this movie will be too self serious, and be akin to, say...a slasher. I hope it is, and I hope that these new trend setters don't inevitably obliterate anything film has to look forward to.
Comment #13 (Posted by Heathcliffe)
This dingbat can't even be honest for a second... "Yeah, there are two upsides to remaking Straw Dogs, first, I'll be making MAJOR MONEY off this gig, huh huh, and second, right now nobody but my mom knows who I am, but after this opens, I'll have over 9000 Myspace friends in one week and my pictures will appear in magazines, so there! Yeah, I've never had one original idea in my life, so what?"
Comment #14 (Posted by Ten Pound Salmon)
Isn't Straw Dogs generally regarded as Peckinpah's weakest film? Get over yourselves, people. Trust me, I'm sure Peckinpah doesn't mind.
Comment #15 (Posted by gord)
@Salmon
Peckinpah's weakest film is still better than 75% of the films out there today.
Comment #16 (Posted by Beer-Swilling Hillbilly Southern Rapist)
make that 90% and I agree
Comment #17 (Posted by Mike LeP)
I'm a huge fan of Straw Dogs - it's one of my favorite films - and there is absolutely no reason to remake this film: None. The original perfectly accomplished what it sets out to do and the general themes have already been rehashed ad nauseum.
I hope I'm wrong, but my guess is Straw Dogs features a bunch of WB model looking actors, dials up the graphic violence quite a bit, totally removes the nudity and sanitizes the misogyny of the original.
There's NO way a Hollywood studio green lights this film without castrating it first.
Horrible idea.
Comment #18 (Posted by pacman)
I was thinking this film over. If the creator of this film has even a grain of creative salt in his balls he should take this suggestion: An easy going country boy ends up in Camden, NJ and has to fight for his life against "thugstas" using his hunting/trapping skills against their urban skillz. They have a hard time fighting country boy because they're blinded by the hot shells of their 9mms from holding them the wrong way. The city is to me, way more terrifying than the country any day. Be honest, where would you want your wife to go jogging in the evening sporting spandex - a trail through some Kentucky mountains or the sidewalks of the aforementioned city? It's funny how media ignores the real ugly side of America and focuses on what's safe and mute because they're afraid to strike a nerve. Before anyone gits pissy on me, I was born in NJ and have family there but I was raised in the South so I know both worlds, so kiss my ass preemptively.
Comment #19 (Posted by Ideaman)
I'm not against remakes just because they're remakes, but I do think Lurie's entirely the wrong guy. He's a really strong feminist, and it's like have Alan Alda do a remake of Barberella ... the whole point's going to be missed. Lurie's an intelligent filmmaker who loads his flicks with idea over any actual style, and I don't think he's got the balls to really go as dirty as this flick requires.
Comment #20 (Posted by Michael)
I can't wait til they cast Shia LaPoof in this as Hoffman's original character, since after all, he is the new dustin hoffman, which is why spielberg and lucas have tried to force him down movie audiences throats.
Comment #21 (Posted by Patrick)
The fact that Lurie thinks Peckinpah's personal intentions mean shit in reading the movie is a huge red flag.
Comment #22 (Posted by JACK)
LOL yeah the guy is right, he is kind of a hack for taking something that is already great and trying to make it his own. I mean I think the movie is great, and most people would disagree with him that it is heavily flawed, and I for one love the odd weird moments of it.
Comment #23 (Posted by David)
Another problem with remaking this film apart from the obvious fact that Lurie has no visual style either through mise-en-scene or through montage that Peckinpah had in spades, is the fact that since Straw Dogs we've been inundated with "Straw Dogs"-type movies where survivors hole themselves up against marauding bands of killers, rapists, aliens, monsters, etc...it's been done too many times...one example...Wasn't "Fear" with Marky Mark and Reese W just a teenaged version of Straw Dogs? Look, the only way for Lurie to truly remake this film is if he can summon up enough talent to make a better film than Peckinpah and I think we all know the answer to that...he can't and he won't.
Comment #24 (Posted by Camareno Story)
More than the lie of the liberal, it's really the lie of chauvinist view of ' male power ' - where it's shown that, when allowed to really shine, does not amount to much. All these misguided, loser bastards would really end up picking up after each other in the end ; it's a fucking sorry sight. This film effectively saps out all blind faith in myopic, short-sighted view of patriarchal strength, and it shows. The fact that the mathematician guy chooses to ride with some pathetic weasel instead of a great woman into oblivion is the film's ultimate tragedy. All the preceding bombastic violence and the bear traps ended up coming down to naught. It's almost the ' anti-catharsis ' movie. That's what I got from it.
The one Sam Peckinpah movie where I felt the treatment of women seemed really questionable was in ' Cross of Iron '. Great film all around, on par with ' Saving Private Ryan ' in my list, but that scene with those Russian soldiers made it very apparent he'd rather they were more of ' providers '. But that's really more of ' sexist ', instead of misogynist ( he certainly don't want women dead or hurt, definitely ) . And even THAT doesn't hold a candle to the creepy, demeaning shit of Eurotrash art film crap, like Goddard, or Francois Ozon, or the fucktard who made ' Irreversible '.
Yeah, so they're the more ' feminist ', because they're oh so intellectual, and academic, and dwell on women's ' feelings '. Maybe that's the real ' liberal lie ' worth inspecting.....
Comment #25 (Posted by Camareno Story)
More than the lie of the liberal, it's really the lie of chauvinist view of ' male power ' - where it's shown that, when allowed to really shine, does not amount to much. All these misguided, loser bastards would really end up picking up after each other in the end ; it's a fucking sorry sight. This film effectively saps out all blind faith in myopic, short-sighted view of patriarchal strength, and it shows. The fact that the mathematician guy chooses to ride with some pathetic weasel instead of a great woman into oblivion is the film's ultimate tragedy. All the preceding bombastic violence and the bear traps ended up coming down to naught. It's almost the ' anti-catharsis ' movie. That's what I got from it.
The one Sam Peckinpah movie where I felt the treatment of women seemed really questionable was in ' Cross of Iron '. Great film all around, on par with ' Saving Private Ryan ' in my list, but that scene with those Russian soldiers made it very apparent he'd rather they were more of ' providers '. But that's really more of ' sexist ', instead of misogynist ( he certainly don't want women dead or hurt, definitely ) . And even THAT doesn't hold a candle to the creepy, demeaning shit of Eurotrash art film crap, like Goddard, or Francois Ozon, or the fucktard who made ' Irreversible '.
Yeah, so they're the more ' feminist ', because they're oh so intellectual, and academic, and dwell on women's ' feelings '. Maybe that's the real ' liberal lie ' worth inspecting.....

