IS OBSERVE & REPORT A CLASSIC IN THE MAKING?
- By Devin Faraci
- Published 10/13/2008
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Over the last few days I've heard two things about Observe & Report, the latest Seth Rogen film:- it's really, really great;
- it's possibly in trouble.
And of course the trouble - in the form of test numbers that make the studio nervous - comes from exactly what makes the film great. We may be seeing yet another movie whose very specialness stumps the studio.
Observe & Report is Jody Hill's follow-up to the incredible Foot Fist Way (which I just watched again tonight at the New Beverly Cinema as part of Patton Oswalt's mini-festival), and everything I'm hearing is that it's a huge step up for a director who started out very strongly. Seth Rogen plays a petty, totalitarian mall cop who is forced to work with a police detective (Ray Liotta) to find a flasher running amok. While Rogen usually plays the likable, pot smoking schlub, here he's got a much darker character, described to me as a racist asshole (which really gibes with what I saw while visiting the set), a character that makes Foot Fist Way's Fred Simmons seem cuddly.
And that's the problem. Besides the fact that Hill specializes in edgy, not obvious comedy (the punchlines aren't pointed out or delivered in traditional ways, which has led some people to bizarrely claim that Foot Fist isn't funny. It just isn't a film with neon lights on its jokes), which is going to be hard for mall audiences to accept, Rogen is playing very against type. For serious film and comedy fans this is exciting, but the sweet guy from Knocked Up suddenly playing a douchebag is off-putting to the middle of the road types.
The film had a test screening in the Los Angeles area this weekend, and I spoke to a couple of people who saw the current cut. I haven't seen it myself (although I wish I had gone), but I trust the opinions of these folks. It helps that they had the same take: this is a great film, but one that left half the test audience cold. The films that were mentioned in comparison to Observe & Report were Bad Santa, Taxi Driver (!) and Anchorman (in terms of intensity of laughs). One of my sources, a very non-PC type, said that some of the jokes made even him uncomfortable, which he loved. And the film apparently pushes the envelope not just in the comedy but in some violence, which includes a parody of the classic Oldboy hallway/hamer fight scene. Both of the people to whom I spoke tried not to oversell what they had seen, but both felt that it was an incredible film, magnitudes better and even funnier than Foot Fist.
It's fitting that Bad Santa came up - that's another film whose darkness caused problems with the studio,. I always wonder why this happens with films whose script offers every dark nook and cranny up for inspection. Do the suits think that things will get softened up on set? So they hope that during the making of the movie that edgy, almost ugly joke gets lightened up?
Whatever the case, here's hoping that the Observe & Report that hits theaters is similar to the test cut, at least in terms of being Jody Hill's vision. I know that everybody had to sign draconian NDAs, but if you saw the test screening this weekend, drop me a line - I am not looking for reviews to run on the site, but I am interested in hearing what more people thought of the film.
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Comment #1 (Posted by Bubbles)
More Seth Rogan stories please!
Comment #2 (Posted by Devin Fatfacey)
Over the last few days I've heard two things about Observe & Report, the latest Seth Rogen film:
- Seth Rogen refuses to marry me.
- Seth Rogen, please, please be my best buddy and marry me!
Comment #3 (Posted by Boner)
Seth's lovable stoner routine got real old about the time that shitheap Pinapple express came out. Its good to see him diversify, because he's great in the other stuff he's done. Devin still wants the guy to fuck him in the ass, hard.
Comment #4 (Posted by an unknown user)
I take every comedy this site pimps with a grain of salt..After this site building up Pineapple Express for months as a "classic", I maybe laughed twice throught the whole thing. In fact, this site is the only major geek site to pimp that movie. All othe rgeek sites (joblo.com, darkhorizons.com, etc) gave the movie terrible scores. Face it, the movie was shit with MAJOR comedic timing issues....I have no doubt that observe and report will be just as unfunny
Comment #5 (Posted by Nancy Trowbridge)
The problems with Pineapple weren't comedy related, it was the action elements. Loved the movie, wish they had actually made an action comedy instead of a comedy with meta action. Foot Fist Way is a minor classic in and of itself, please don't fuck with this movie, studio. By the way, I thought that Rogen was kind of a douchebag in Knocked Up.
Comment #6 (Posted by an unknown user)
I think (and HOPE) that the Seth Rogen/Judd Apatow train derails in a big ball of bloody flames. I am so pissed off with people like Devin sucking ApaRogen cock and insisting that these guys are making the best funniest movies of their age. When 'superbad' was getting hyped you guys made it sound like it was the shit. Instead it turned out to just be shit, a movie aptly reviewed by it's own name. Then the whole 'pineapple express' fellatio party started, and now it's been releasesed, guess what? It's just average too....sheesh.
Comment #7 (Posted by Moofti)
Hopefully this doesn't turn out to be a "classic" in the same way the Pineapple Express was claimed to be. That was endless hype for what turned out to be a very average movie.
Comment #8 (Posted by GiggityGoo)
This sounds like what happened to Jim Carrey with "Cable Guy"... Audiences were really shocked by the serial killer mindset of his character in that film, as opposed to the loveable goofball from "Ace Ventura" and "In Living Color".
Comment #9 (Posted by durp!)
I actually found The Foot Fist Way to be unwatchable. I turned it off after half an hour. It just wasn't funny. At all. Maybe it picks up in the second half, but by that point I had no interest in the main character. And I had such high hopes with all the praise it got from a lot of really great comedians.
Comment #10 (Posted by Yeah I said it.)
The above posters who didnt like Pineapple Express or Foot Fist Way can go eat a giant dong. Those movies ARE classics, made by people who obviously loves movies, and made for people who love movies. If you cant get with some David Gordon Green, then your opinion means nothing to me (or to anyone with, ahem, taste)
Comment #11 (Posted by an unknown user)
Those movies are not classics. Lakeview Terrace is the new classic. I'm the PO LICE!
YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY!
Rogen is horrible.
Comment #12 (Posted by Scott W.)
The Foot Fist Way is not funny. And I say that as someone who loved the East Bound and Down pilot, so I "get" the Hill/McBride brand of racist idiot humor. The difference is just that The Foot Fist Way is terrible.
Comment #13 (Posted by Steve)
Wow... are the comment-writers on this site in competition with the talkbackers on AICN for an "Excelling in Douchebagery" award or something? Seriously... Let's all pray that Devin gets raped by an AIDS-infected monkey and then gets cancer of the eyes because he liked a movie you didn't! Boo-hoo. Fucking grow up.
Comment #14 (Posted by Mikey)
Caught this screening on Saturday. Loved "Foot Fist Way", and thought this one was even better. Surprisingly violent and subversive ("Bad Santa" is an apt comparison), it also features one of the funniest end sequences in recent memory. A good companion piece I think, to Rogen's "Pineapple Express". Very much recommended.
Comment #15 (Posted by Dookie Mercury)
I'm actually intrigued, this is the first I've ever heard of this. While I haven't seen Foot Fist I've heard great things about it. And hearing about Rogan playing against type of this magnitude almost has me having flashbacks to Tim Robbins in Jungle Fever. Plus what's with all this hate on Rogan and Apatow. In Rogan's case he's still a relative unknown with big scores in box office I don't think we've seen what he's truly capable of. As for Apatow, dude's been in the business for years, hell things that I remember bringing me fond memories like The Critic, Celtic Pride, Cable Guy, Zero Effect, although weird to see his name on Disney's Heavy Weights, and that's not even mentioning his other well regarded works. The point is with Rogan chill out I bet there is more to see from him that we haven't seen yet maybe in 2010 we'll look back a say that Rogan and Chow's Green Hornet will be what the Dark Knight was to Batman '89.
Comment #16 (Posted by Three Oranges)
A sequel to Paul Blart already?
Comment #17 (Posted by Fred Simmons)
Hey Durp!- "If you were in prison, you'd be raped because you exude feminine qualities. You're also a big ole fat piece of ass."
Comment #18 (Posted by durp!)
Don't get me wrong - I "got" the joke. I liked the people involved with the movie. I kept my expectations in check even with all of the grassroots hype around it. And I wanted it to be good. I just found it boring and uninspired. I felt like I was watching a mediocre SNL sketch stretched out into a poor movie. Maybe I'll give it a second chance someday, but after that first half hour, I knew it would just sit on my coffee table until I returned it to Netflix.
Comment #19 (Posted by Bob)
Guys, I just ate three boxes of shredded wheat. In a few hours, I'm going to take a shit that will be deemed a classic. Reporters the world over, history books, world leaders are going to be calling it the shit of all shits. It's going to be THE classic dump that all future dumps aspire to be. Twenty years from now you're going to be telling your kids about my shit, I guarantee it.
Comment #20 (Posted by joyful)
Not sure where Devin's getting this whole Rogen playing this likable schlub, he's been a douche in all the movies I've seen him in thus far...let's see...40 year old virgin? perverted loser...knocked-up? loser jerk to his baby-mama....pineapple? let's see...another loser, a jerk to his supplier and gf...
Comment #21 (Posted by an unknown user)
I just do not understand the love for "Foot Fist Way". By the the 45 minute mark I chuckled four times, and by the end credits, seven. I found it lazy and boring. On the other hand I really dug "Pineapple Express" with the exception of Danny McBride. So maybe it's McBride, I didn't like him in "Tropic Thunder" either. I guess I have to file him under "Fool's I Don't Get" right next to Dane Cook.
Comment #22 (Posted by moondog)
"The twins" are gonna own this film...you just watch!
Comment #23 (Posted by Chareth Cutestory)
Yeah, I'm with joyful on this, Rogen always plays a douchebag. I mean, he's a funny douchebag, but a rose by any other name is still a rose.
Comment #24 (Posted by jib)
Foot Fist Way sucked SO fucking hard, that if this is even ten-times better, it'll still be an unbearable piece of shit. You CHUD clowns are seriously losing the good taste you USED to have for movies. What the fuck is going on?

