YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG, DAY TWENTY
- By Devin Faraci
- Published 04/29/2008
- Lists

You and I and all those people out there with a vocal love of film have ruined it for everyone, pimping movies up, falling in love with mediocre films and championing them to near-legendary status. We've embraced turkeys, legitimized borderline movies, and elevated modest films in our favorite franchises above and beyond realistic standards. We've even embraced the films everyone likes, somehow adding a credibility to them that transcends the mainstream. Sacred cows, little flicks, and everything in between. It's time we took a look inward and came clean with 25 movies we think need to be taken down a peg or two.
These are our four categories for this list:
OVERRATED
These guys have had it too easy. Far too easy. Don't believe the insane hype.
OVERBLOWN
Good flicks that have gotten too damn big for their britches.
MISUNDERSTOOD
Asshole, you love this film for all the wrong reasons.
WHAT THE FUCK
Something went horribly wrong here, and it's carried over to the fans, who are blinded by shizer.
These guys have had it too easy. Far too easy. Don't believe the insane hype.
OVERBLOWN
Good flicks that have gotten too damn big for their britches.
MISUNDERSTOOD
Asshole, you love this film for all the wrong reasons.
WHAT THE FUCK
Something went horribly wrong here, and it's carried over to the fans, who are blinded by shizer.
CHUD's Logline: After killing Captain Kirk with a fucking bridge, the knobs behind The Next Generation had to figure out how to suck on their own. The answer was yet another goddamned time travel story in a fictional universe where cause and effect long since had lost any meaning.Its Legacy: This film's box office take allowed Paramount to make Star Trek: Insurrection, a movie so bad it killed DeForrest Kelly. It set the standard for Neal McDonough getting no respect. It inspired a couple of episodes of Enterprise, which surely is punishable by death.
Why It's Here: First Contact is the second highest grossing Star Trek movie, coming in behind The Voyage Home. It keeps popping up on fan's lists of best Trek films, and its spot as the eighth movie is used to further the theory that the even numbered Trek films are the best ones. All of this despite it being a big honking piece of ass.
It's worth noting, as a disclaimer, that I never liked The Next Generation all that much. Where the original series had a flawed and motley crew of characters brawling and occasionally boning their way through unknown parts of the galaxy, The Next Generation had a squeaky clean batch of bores involved in snooze-worthy diplomacy and endless touchy feely crap. James Kirk certainly had no room on his bridge for a fucking counselor. Now, Janice Rand in a miniskirt, sure...
The only saving grace of The Next Generation was The Borg. The beauty of this cybernatic race was that they couldn't be reasoned with, they couldn't be bought off. The only answer was to defeat them through force or guile. When the second Next Generation movie promised to focus on a massive Borg incursion into Federation space - an assault on Earth itself! - and a desperate time travel mission to stop the assimilation of all we know, it seemed like First Contact could be a good entry in the series. Instead it helped ensure that The Next Generation crew would go zero for four in their cinematic outings.
The movie begins well enough, diving into the action, with a battle where a huge amount of Starfleet is decimated. But in a scene that should have warned us all what would follow, the whole damn things happens on the radio. I remember sitting stunned in the movie theater as a goddamned radio play was used to depict the most massive battle in Starfleet history.
Things go downhill; the plot makes no sense - the Borg's back up plan is to go back in time and take over Earth before we have warp drives? If jumping back in time is so easy that the Borg escape ship can do it, why not just go into the past and assimilate the shit out of the galaxy hundreds or thousands of years ago? Why even fight anybody? When the Borg get on the Enterprise and begin assimilating the ship, we expect an exciting series of battles. Instead we learn that the Enterprise is manned by buffoons who can't even be bothered to shoot at the Borg as they advance.
As the very boring Borg invasion of the Enterprise happens (complete with a pointless visit to the Holodeck and the murder of Neal McDonough), Riker and a bunch of dipshits are on Earth, helping Babe's father invent the warp drive after a Borg attack screws things up. On the original Star Trek Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock could travel all through history and blend in; Riker opens his fat mouth and tells Captain Stacey everything. To quote Futurama: 'Take that, causality!' I mean, Riker and friends don't just tell him that his warp drive is historic - Georgi fucking points out where the guy's statue will stand in two hundred years. And just in case they didn't muck with history too much, Riker and Geordi actually go along with Captain Dudley Smith on his warp journey, which attracts the attention of Vulcans and brings Earth into the galactic fold. This is like me going back in time and signing the Declaration of Independence, or taking the controls of the Enola Gay.
The film's sloppy time travel wouldn't be so bad if there was an interesting moment in it. Data has a long discussion with the Borg Queen that feels like it's straight out of the freshman dorms. Earth pre-warp drive is a nuclear wasteland after World War III, but of course The Next Generation can't dwell on anything that isn't shiny and happy, so that's ignored. The shipboard fighting is dull, and feels like it spans a week. And it features Picard as an action hero - seeing this old bald fucker swinging around and kicking ass is silly in the extreme. The stakes are raised by offing the new guy on the bridge; First Contact apes Wrath of Khan's Moby Dick themes, couldn't it have taken a page from that script and killed off a character? Why did anybody need Beverly Crusher around in future films? Instead the redshirts take their biggest hit in this film, and nobody gives a shit.
First Contact isn't the worst Trek film by far, but it's also nowhere near as good as the first six. Well, maybe it's a little better than The Final Frontier, as there's nothing in First Contact quite as horrifying as Uhura's fan dance. Still, this is a movie that gets elevated beyond its station by Trekkies desperate to make the insane argument that Picard is anywhere near the captain that Kirk was.
A Moment of Piss: 'Assimilate this!' Assimilate my cock in your mouth, Worf.
These Ain't Chopped Liver Alternatives: Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan, Star Trek: The Search For Spock, Star Trek: The Voyage Home, Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country
Andre Dellamorte Agrees: Before The Phantom Menace, it was Star Trek: The Next Generation that promised gold to the genre fan and delivered a golden spray. Seriously, TNG and every Star Trek spin-off after is flawed at best (and I know someone will counter with Ron Moore's proto-BSG run of Deep Sapce 9, but I don't care), and even Enterprise was a long road (getting from there to here) away from what it should have been. The biggest problem is that the original series was randy, and it seems the makers of new Star Trek treated sex as an alien concept. Perhaps this was seen as a way to relate to the fanbase, but what I love about the Original Series is that Kirk is DTF. He's Down To Fuck - though the whole show is horny (even Scotty has a love interest episode, though it's made tragic by her noticably having herpes). Then again, the chemistry and organization of that bridge was a singular thing, as each successive show has proven. And that may be the biggest problem with First Contact (though, actually, I'd say the flat direction and low-rentness of it all is most damning): contractual obligation gives the overloaded cast all little arcs that leaves the bifurcated narrative stop-starting with non-events. Seriously, cutting away to Earth where characters make repairs, you can't wait to get to the non-action back on the bridge, and then once you're back on the ship, you wonder why you don't care. Did I also mention that the film start with a "It's just a dream... or is it?" sequence? Alas, the moment they announced that the Borg were the baddies in this film and that it's a death match, you knew that the film would have to kill them off (in what alternate universe would the Borg win?) and TNG would lose the sole interesting concept that the reinventors ever came up with. Everyone in the cast wants to keep getting paid, so you have a no-stakes film where boring characters seemingly do stuff, but really just create the illusion of action, while the characters never evolve and the spectacle (such as it is) does little to make up for the complete lack of involving characterization. In that, First Contact really is a perfect blueprint for The Phantom Menace.
Nick Nunziata Disagrees: The only comparison to a Star Wars film First Contact deserves is one that says it's bigger and more cinematic than the typical Star Trek films and more in tune with the once great Lucas saga in terms of entertainment value. Under the guidance of Jonathan Frakes' neatly trimmed boringbeard this film is incredibly robust in how big it feels. It still feels like Star Trek but it also as cinematic and engaging in a way the series hadn't attained to date. Yes, it's messy. Yes, it doesn't fully establish the Next Generation crew as nearly as fun, sexy, or interesting as their predecessors [Patrick Stewart excepted, who is possibly the greatest man to ever don a Starfleet Unitard this side of Christian Slater] but as a group of characters and actors to continue the brand, they do admirable work. The film made a ton of money and paved the way for a couple more terrible films in the series, but First Contact isn't the problem. It's nothing more than a muscular action/sci-fi flick with an eye towards making the series explode on the big screen. It's guilty of flash and overreaching, but it's not overrated. Aside from some of the terrestrial stuff, it's a blast of a film and firmly in the top three or four in the series and not burdened with the built-in acceptance granted to all of the Shatner/Nimoy entries. Any franchise with a The Final Frontier and an Insurrection in it is beyond being anything that nears such a classification. First Contact is a mainstream, polished Star Trek film. Sorry, that's not enough reason to vilify it.
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Comment #1 (Posted by deepfix)
i'm sorry. really, i am. are you really trying to cal Star Trek: First Contact overrated? i mean, i saw it in the headline but, as i'm getting far too much older and far too much poorer to go get new glasses, i could have misread this. have i somehow drank too much booze and awoken in a world where this movie is one of the most highly beloved science fiction movie of all time? i've resisted making any comments but, really, is this what this series is about? each movie seems to be an example of what jack, the guy who lives three houses down from me, likes a modest bit and therefor needs a good talking down to. i expected a bit of kubrick (here but not in the waty i would have expected), maybe some welles, a dash of pekinpah (am i the only one who can't make it through pat garret and billy the kid), hell the greatest entry in this series would be the empire strikes back. i worship that movie (do you hear me voivodling?) but i'd be interested in hearing an argument against it. instead i get this, the last watchable star trek movie. let's do an underrated series with streets of fire and the first entry....
Comment #2 (Posted by Kris)
That was fucking hilarious. Stick it to those trekkies!
Comment #3 (Posted by SciCurious)
Oh man...I had to laugh at this one. Too funny. I'll read the article now...
Comment #4 (Posted by Phasers On Stun)
Outside of Trekkie conventions, I don't think First Contact even has a fanbase. Let's face it, the original crew was sexy-the next generation dorks. With the original series you could smoke some weed and watch it with your chick. Kirk was so cool you'd still be gettin some pussy. If you tried to get play with that Picard shit on, back to rockin' the band of the hand. The original had Scotty and proto-choclate fantasy Uhura. Next G. had Whoopi Goldberg, Kunte Kinte and a dorky cyborg. Weak! Now your comparisons between First Contact & Phantom Menace are way off. (I expected better) As Devin wrote before, Star Wars was riding a wave of cool. All Trek had was dead nostalga and mathletes. I don't think there were lines around the block for this piece of crap.
Comment #5 (Posted by DOMINO!!!!!)
Are you fucking kidding? Overrated? About 51 people on the planet are fans of this movie. Fuck off.
Comment #6 (Posted by an unknown user)
I AM ONE OF THOSE 51 PEOPLE
i hate star trek
i really do
i have absolutely ZERO connection with the original series crew so I don't automatically say anything that is not Kirk or Spock blowing each other is SHITE
this movie rocks
Comment #7 (Posted by deepfix)
i will say that it is the best of the next generation films. but i think that we will all agree that that is damning with faint praise. as i watch battlestar gallactica, i can only dream of a deep space nine series of films with ronald moore in complete charge.....
Comment #8 (Posted by longbowhunter)
I've got to be honest-I dont know why I keep reading these. These columns have made me lose what little respect Ihad for the writers on this site. The general attitude of CHUD seems to be this-anything that people enjoy actually sucks BECAUSE people like it. Its only cool to like the things that other people hate. Grow up guys and enjoy your nerd movies without such crippling shame.
Comment #9 (Posted by Voivodling)
HAHAHHAHAHA Deepfix, you are my HERO! You trip me out! As a matter-of-fact, Empire is my favorite Star Wars movie as well! Unfortunately, however, I fall into the camp that The Next Generation should never have existed ... they should have called it something else. I agree with the posters that said how could this movie have been "overrated," in fact I believe it is just another ploy by the writers of this website to get people pissed ... as Trekkies are notoriously angry (as I have been accused of about Lucas and Star Wars). Although it has been a while since I watched this movie, I remember enjoying it for what it was ... but it didn't change my life. Insurrection, however, is a whole different ball-o-wax ... it should have been a television episode as opposed to a movie. Deepfix, don't let these asshats get you down ... as they are far more interested in being official "critics" than actual movie fans (like this page used to be). Case in point, I have not been approved for their Forums yet ... nor do I expect to be, because I don't always agree with their opinions (in fact, I don't agree with most of their opinions). Once they make sure the Talkback sections are down, then they can go on spouting all of their "artistic" nonsense to their raving fans. Am I bitter? Yeah, I am. I found this page years ago while trolling for movie reviews on stuff I liked (sci-fi, horror, etc.) and finally found a page that was more professional-looking than Upcoming Horror Movies and others ... and then the torch was apparently passed to someone who WISHES they were really a Movie-Insider and they then proceded to destroy anything that may have been genre about the page. Rambling because I am hammered. Anyway, Deepfix, this entire series (along with this ruined site) is DESIGNED to raise your ire. I have developed a rather sick perversion to blast them about just about everything ... but quite frankly they make it EASY. Anyway, take care of yourself Deepfix. OPIE AND ANTHONY! O&A PARTY ROCK! XM 202! - for all of my fans who hate the fact that I would actually put a RADIO show up!
Comment #10 (Posted by mv)
Devin--once again, you grace us with an article brimming with typos, bad grammar, and a lofty tone. God forbid somebody might like a movie on this site. Go learn to use an "em dash." Pathetic.
Comment #11 (Posted by Magic Kenny)
"This film's box office take allowed Paramount to make Star Trek: Insurrection, a movie so bad it killed DeForrest Kelly." And, by proxy, James Doohan.
Comment #12 (Posted by deepfix)
hey "mv" or whatever your name may be, i'm not quite certain that devin wrote any of this here crap. regardless, thanks for the commentary. now, please tell me your thoughts on this particular movie. or, if you can't stick to the topic on hand, don't fuck shit up for the rest of us.
Comment #13 (Posted by NoDiggity)
First Contact was a bad movie. A dumb movie. I'd never watch it again. But I have to objec to "Voyage Home" as a "not chopped liver alternative" to it. Surely that movie is WORSE? Even with all the old cast involved? At least First Contact had the Borg. What did Voyage Home have? And as retarded as First Contact was, it had the neatest original theme of any of the Star Trek movies, playing over the opening credits.
Comment #14 (Posted by I hate any movies other people like)
Overrated? It has a small cult following, but I doubt the general populace even recalls this flick.
Not only is Devin obsessed with the concept that the message boards conversation be entirely about films, despite CHUD's featuring content about other media such as television and video games, he wants the discussions to entirely validate his own opinions. God forbid you disagree.
Comment #15 (Posted by an unknown user)
voivodling, i have to say i don't agree with a lot of your opinions but those opinions are fun. keep it up. but let's try to keep it impersonal. fuck me, i'm drunk and i have received far more responses from talkbackers than i have from message board memebers. long live OPIE AND ANTHONY! O&A PARTY ROCK! XM 202
Comment #16 (Posted by Yaz)
First Contact wasn't amazing, but it was the only one of the "Next Gen" movies that was even half-way watchable. As Nick said, far more cinematic, and main-stream enjoyable than pretty much any other movie in the series. (although correctly not as good as the first six)
Comment #17 (Posted by moviemenace)
I'm no Star Trek fan. I love "Wrath of Kahn". I like the original show and some of the movies. "First Contact", though; I just don't get it. I hate it. I really feel this is the movie built specifically for the trekkies, not the occasionial viewer. I remember sitting in a packed theater opening day, bored out of my mind. One of the characters drops a one-liner and the theater exploded into laughter. I had know idea what was so fucking funny. The joke might as well had been told in German. As I exited, the response to the movie was overwelmingly positive, and I could not understand the reason behind it. I came to realize that the trekkie language is German to me. I don't understand it, I have no interest in learning it, and it's kind of obnoxious. I have never paid to see another Star Trek film because "First Contact" made me lose all interest.
Comment #18 (Posted by PWLovecraft)
I'm not a huge Star Trek fan, thanks to friends who are, I've sat through all the movies. I only one I saw on my own was Undiscovered Country and it's my favourite. Christopher Plummer looking like he's having a blast as a devious Shakespeare spouting Klingon really made the movie.
Comment #19 (Posted by Johnny Daywalker)
I don't get how this is overrated in the least. The only reason its on this list is simple everytime Jeremy or Andre talk Star Trek most of the people in attendance say " Yeah the TNG films were terrible overall but First Contact was great! " thus this gets the overrated moniker for being " The apoligist/decent " TNG film. It has issues but as Nick said it has an epic feel and is what none of the other films before it or after were (In the TNG series) entertaining. It also has an awesome Jerry Goldsmith score and a great performance from Patrick Stewart. Oh and for the record I am not a trekkie but have followed the films and some of the series.
Comment #20 (Posted by Daffs)
Overrated? What the fuck? How can a film that pretty much a small subset enjoy be overrated? And way to not criticize the film at all. Instead, you guys just blast the fanbase. At least when you did this on Fight Club, it made sense. Here, it's just "I don't like Next Generation, so this movie blows!" Why not critique the film on it's technical aspects? That's fallen by the way side, hasn't it. This series started out well, but now it's just turned into a way for you guys to rip on films you don't like. The whole "Overrated/Overblown/Misunderstood/What the Fuck" label is utterly meaningless. You guys want to talk about sucking your own knob, this article is a giant self-suck.
Comment #21 (Posted by Munch)
Surely all the Star Trek movies are overrated by Star Trek fans though? If this series is to have any real value, it needs to go after the Wrath of Khans, not the First Contacts. Go after the sacred cows, not the runts.
Comment #22 (Posted by db donahue)
So umm.... there is a new dark knight trailer up? Apparently the CHUD circle jerk (Nick's comics +You got it all wrong) is more pressing news. You guys used to run such a great fucking site. Lately though... christ.
Comment #23 (Posted by the yipeee troll)
yipeee.
Comment #24 (Posted by Say what)
I think I saw a preview for this way back whenever it came out. After that one TV spot the world figured out that no one gave a shit. I don't even think this movie exists. I guess we just make movies up now. I've got one you can put on your list then, " Ninja orphange rescue". I judged that one Overblown.
Comment #25 (Posted by WeMustRemindHimAlways!)
Who thinks that Devin has had far from his "First Contact" with a jelly doughnut? HAR!
Comment #26 (Posted by Judd Apatow)
Hahaha! Boringbeard! Hey Nick, how about Jonah Hill yelling that in my next film? We'll talk later, okay?
Comment #27 (Posted by davenix)
Well done! You have all left me with nothing to say...so let me get one shot in there about how CHUD owes me $18 for hat piece of shit 'Running Scared.' Douchenozzles!
Comment #28 (Posted by Mr. Poo)
I've figured it out... This entire series of "articles" is a grand CHUDsperiment designed to see how large a percentage of their fanbase they can piss off and how many of them will keep coming back to be pissed off!!! Let the CHUDsperiment continue until the scourge of fanbois is wiped from teh intarwebs!!!!!!!!!
Pooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Comment #29 (Posted by Jon)
You Got It All Wrong Day 21: Jesus Christ.
Overrated, and Underqualified!
Comment #30 (Posted by Gosassin)
Jeremy wrote this, not Devin. And he's right on.
Comment #31 (Posted by Stpnut)
lol. When I saw First Contact on the home page for the YGITAW I thought it must have been defending it. I don't know a single person who thinks its a great movie (and I have a lot of trekkie friends).
Comment #32 (Posted by someonehastosayit)
I wish you guys would scrap this comment section, for the most part it's a bunch a whining pussies that bitch how bad they hate the site and the writers yet they still keep coming back to read the articals and jerkoff their negative comments. I love this list, even when I disagree, take this movie, I'd call it "what the fuck" as it wasn't even good enough to be overratted.
Comment #33 (Posted by Bosephus)
You got it all wrong: Day 45.
Spiderman 2
Two Chud authors will rip it to pieces, finding flaws so miniscule they had to use the magnifying glasses they normally use to find their penises. One Chud Author will disagree and look like the hero. These authors take turns doing so, hoping the fan base will forget that last week, they tore apart their favorite movie from child hood.
Then the responses start coming in. A vocal minority will cheer the two harebrained authors on. Others will sit on the fence, a few will swear the site off forever.
Next time one of these is posted, just ignore it, like many of todays short attention spanned people the fine folks at CHUD keep you coming back by pissing you off.
Welcome to the new world. It sucks.
Comment #34 (Posted by Jeremy Smith)
@Gosassin: Actually, Devin wrote this. I just changed the byline (though I'd be more than happy to let Devin speak for me on this pile).
Comment #35 (Posted by knuckle)
deepfix, you rule! That comment was awesome!
Comment #36 (Posted by Data Minor)
Amazing how nobody has mentioned the main, tragic flaw of First Contact: the Borg Queen. Take one of the most interesting villains in Trek history, and subtract the one thing that made them interesting - their anonymity and lack of a central leader. I can't stand how this movie takes the standard " WE are the Borg" and turns it into "I am the Borg". It goes against everything we know about them!
Also, anybody who even remotely likes Trek should check out "The Return", basically a fanfic book by Shatner. Its awesome, and has everything we expected out of the movies but never got: a complete crossover of (then) all THREE Treks in ways that make sense: Bones assisting Bashir on a surgery, Spock debating emotions with Troi (and just being a badass in general), and best of all, the Kirk-Picard fight! (which typically ends in a draw, but seeing as Picard is heavily armored, I think we ALL know the real winner there). Check it out!
Comment #37 (Posted by Fun Boy)
Devin's first contact with a salad bar or lite-menu would be pure science fiction awesomeness. Keep shovelin' it in !
Comment #38 (Posted by Josh Brolin...Seriously, people!!!)
What a boring list this has turned out to be. Devin is awful and too heavy. There, I said it. And I'll ask again: WHERE'S THE PHIL OWEN???

