INDIANA JONES AND THE LESS EGREGIOUS RUN TIME
- By Jeremy Smith
- Published 04/17/2008
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If there's one problem Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull won't have, it's bloat: contrary to Jeffrey Wells's Tuesday dispatch (which claimed the locked cut clocked in at 140 minutes and change), I'm hearing that the film runs a more Indy-like 123 minutes (with credits).This might contradict John Williams's claim that he's been scoring seven twenty-minute reels, but it could be that he was just quoting a max run time for each reel. As noted by the commenter "Wrecktum" at Wells's Hollywood Elsewhere (yes, "Wrecktum"), the longest a seven-reel film is likely to run is 139 minutes; he/she also adds that the shortest seven-reel feature they've seen was 117 minutes. Granted, I've very limited experience with theatrical projection, but that sounds about right. Perhaps someone with a little more knowledge on the subject could chime in below.
The 123 minutes also jibes with one of my source's claims that Spielberg was bringing Crystal Skull in at less than two hours sans credits. Honestly, when I heard that 140-minute-plus run time, I was puzzled. Since I know pretty much how the narrative transpires, I could not for the life of me account for those extra twenty minutes. Had Spielberg secretly re-shot another truck chase/fight? Added in a couple of Rocky IV-style montages? Padded out the end credits with unseen Cannonball Run II bloopers?
No, this makes sense. It also makes me feel a little better - albeit about my sources, not the movie.
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Comment #1 (Posted by Futurist)
"since I know pretty much how the narrative transpires"... woo, big shot.
Comment #2 (Posted by Magic Kenny)
How much of that runtime is dedicated to George Lucas' double chin?
Comment #3 (Posted by solartaco)
Just tell me if I should like it or hate it!
Comment #4 (Posted by jHC)
Indie, please please dont' be as bad as I think you are going to be.
Also, doesn't H. Ford look like a bleached baseball glove?
Comment #5 (Posted by perturbed)
so then this is the 3rd article in two days on a nothing story?
Comment #6 (Posted by Josh Brolin...seriously!!)
Jesus, this site is so negative. Is being a cynic and ruining the fun for everyone really the way to stand out in the crowd? So childish and boring.
And your writing has taken a downward tilt since joining CHUD, champ.
Comment #7 (Posted by Danny)
Maybe the 140 min. scoop was referring to the version with Shia. The new cut omitting Shia clocks in at just under 2 hours. A guy can dream, right?
Comment #8 (Posted by Randy)
I used to be a projectionist. A reel can hold about 20 minutes worth of film. Granted, some movies go overboard with smaller reels (I recall a few 2 hr 30 movies having like, 12 reels), but 7 reels for a 2 hr run time sounds about right.
Comment #9 (Posted by DrAiN BaMaGe)
This is going to be the summer of suck. Aside from this movie, the only thing I'm looking foward to is TDK, Tropic Thunder, and Maybe HULK. Out of all the comedies coming out, Will Ferrel, John C Reilly, Adam Sandler, Steve Carell, etc, should just make 1 movie together. All best shots in Iron Man were in the Trailer from what I hear, and Hellboy just looks too damn campy for its own good...I don't even need to comment on Hancock or Wanted.
Comment #10 (Posted by Kaleidoscope)
Jeremy's writing is a joke. His opinions are too. That is all.
Comment #11 (Posted by DeaconFrost)
I am a projectionist. Yes, 7 reels would be between 120 to 140 minutes. Sometime there's a small reel to make there be more but I threaded all the harry potters & LOTR movies & they never used more than 9 reels. The platters will not fit a movie longer than 3 hours. That's why there's an interrmission. (also dealt with Gods & Generals - 9 reels. )
Comment #12 (Posted by brian)
Mea fucking culpa.
Someone must have dosed Devin when he linked to this erroneous non-news a few days. It's been a great few days for journalism, guys!
Comment #13 (Posted by Jeremy Smith)
Take it up with Jeffrey Wells, brian, not us. He was reporting like he had a solid source, and he's been at this game *a lot* longer than us.
Comment #14 (Posted by BurmaShave)
My favorite is when Wrecktum and Mike Ock get into a debate. I shit, er, kid you not.
Comment #15 (Posted by james)
DeaconFrost - Depends on your projector I guess. Gods & General, the LotR movies, etc all ran on one platter at the theater I was projectionist at.
Comment #16 (Posted by JSW)
If you are getting called out by Josh Brolin. It may be time to get a handle on your life. Hell. Get a handle on your life if it's a fake Josh Brolin, but Jeremy at least has a sense whimsy. That has to count for something Mr. Brolin!
Comment #17 (Posted by Bozz)
If Josh Brolin were a true method actor he'd stop reading during the shoot for W.
Comment #18 (Posted by Hal Needham)
Come to me now, I'll throw in some bloopers from Hooper and Rad. You're welcome, Steve!
Comment #19 (Posted by LD)
Kaleidoscope...you may or may not agree with what Beak's says but never, EVER, make light of the man's writing skills. If you want to talk that kind of shit, you sure as fuck better back it up with something better than the sapless trite you just marched out. "That is all", indeed.
Comment #20 (Posted by PlanBFromOuterSPace)
I too am a projectionist, and the longest I've seen a film run is about 10 reels, maybe 11. There's certainly room on the projector's platters for more, so maybe the other projectionist that chimed in works with smaller projectors. The only movie I remember having at my theater that had an intermission was "Gods and Generals", and the intermission was built-in, basically a waste of film (as if the rest of the film wasn't waste enough already, hiyo!). The longest 7 reeler I've seen may have been "Batman Begins".
Comment #21 (Posted by Spielbarg owns our asses)
No no one knows shit about this movie. That´s good, i wanna be surprised.
Comment #22 (Posted by an unknown user)
God damn those Indiana Jones movies are overrated. Please grown ups get your head out of your former child-self's ass.
They were great fun. They just don't stack up nearly as well today as you think they do.
So on that note, fuck all this naysaying about Crystal Skull.
Get a grip on reality folks.
Comment #23 (Posted by Jack Rabbit)
Dissing Beaks has to be some kind of sin, right? Some kind of social faux pas, cos seriously, who the fuck would call shit on one of the best writers on the entire fucking internet? And Brolin, unless you're Bearded Brolin, go fuck a pig.
Comment #24 (Posted by Former Projectionist)
You guys think 11 reels is long? The longest movie that I ever saw in my 7 1/2 years as a projectionist was the 1996 Hamlet. That sucker was 20!! reels. It came to an inch of the edge of the platter.
-That is all.
Comment #25 (Posted by Josh Brolin...seriously!!!!)
Look, I may have been harsh on the man. But I'm tired of the subtle bashing of this movie just because it's a Lucas/Nostalgia film.
I'm eating suckling pig right now, by the way.
Comment #26 (Posted by Diane Lane..seriously!!!!)
Why oh why, did I leave Christopher Lambert. No pussy for you tonite, Joshie-poo.
Comment #27 (Posted by Jay)
Arthur and the Invisibles (94 mins long) was 9 reels. 9. Reels. 20 minutes is max for one reel. Nobody told that to MGM.

