'TOO SOON!' CRIES DARK KNIGHT PREVIEW AUDIENCE?
- By Russ Fischer
- Published 04/10/2008
- News
I've waffled on running the latest bit of Dark Knight rumor today, but there's no reason not to offer the news for your consideration. (If you're not keen on spoilers, skip the next paragraph and just understand that some bit of Ledger footage might be trimmed.)
The short form is that Cinema Blend has word that The Dark Knight is being test-screened (no surprise) and that at least one audience reacted poorly to a shot of Heath Ledger's Joker. The bit in question has the Joker, pretending to be dead, pictured in a body bag. I suppose I can see why some might not take well to the image, and Cinema Blend reports that WB is mulling a cut. We don't know how much of the scene would go, if indeed it is cut at all.
The obvious question is whether this represents the studio being over-sensitive. Even if trimmed now, the expectation is that the shot/scene would be reinstated for DVD at some point down the line. But if that's the case, how is showing the image in nine months any more respectful than showing it in July? Ledger did his work in good faith and by all accounts he did it very, very well. The coincidence between on-screen appearance and off-screen reality is unfortunate, but attempting to sanitize the end product won't do anyone favors.
I've also got to take Cinema Blend to task for sensationalizing their coverage; though the article suggests that a shot or two might be cut, the headline specifies 'Joker Scenes'. If accurate it's a fine story, and there's no reason to suggest that WB might perform an amputation rather than an appendectomy. The latter would be offensive enough.
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Comment #1 (Posted by an unknown user)
Yeah I'm sure any actor, dead or alive, would want a scene of their work cut because some stranger felt it was "too soon." Seriously? Ledger was a damn good actor and damn good actors almost NEVER want anything they do cut. I mean it wasn't like he was an instinctual actor who plays the emotion they feel at a given moment and is thus more likely to dislike a performance later. No the dude was one of those "study" actors.
Comment #2 (Posted by bpvalentine)
Is this one of those things where people feel nothing but think maybe they should and so come up with criticism designed to underline whatever morals they feel they have? I guess that's rhetorical.
Comment #3 (Posted by Andrew Buckley)
Screw WB. I want every shot that Christopher Nolan intends to be in it to be in it. I'm sure Heath would agree. And why is it bad to have audience members crying? I see this as being a plus.
Comment #4 (Posted by Lucas)
It's just make-believe, folks. A couple guys putting on some goofy clothes and makeup and playing house in front of a camera. What's the big deal?
Comment #5 (Posted by Bozz)
Yeah, what about the stuntman that died during the production of the movie? Should they cut out any work he did too?
He passed away well before his time, which is still awful. That said, would he theoretically have not done that scene if he somehow knew he real life fate? Of course not. This is ridiculous.
Comment #6 (Posted by Rob Hodge)
This is bullshit. If some overly sensitive twat gets something cut from this movie, I'm going to be very pissed off. This is the wrong type of audience member to gauge a response from. This is someone who looks at the screen and sees Heath Ledger and Christian Bale running around in costumes. I guarantee that's not what anyone involved in production was wanting.
If the film is good, we should see the characters on the film and not the actors. It's not as if they snuck in a shot of Heath Ledger dead; it's the fucking Joker! There's a difference between a character and the person playing him.
I'm sure it's impossible to completely divorce the actor from the character, but overly sensitive people really bother me. This message is just a rant.
Comment #7 (Posted by News Fan)
Thank you for a CHUD article without retarded "jokes" and "comedy" and useless, unfunny cussin' that add nothing to the story. Really, thank you. Zingers such as: "What am I forgetting? Oh, and go fuck yourself." and "...expectations in proportion to your cock size" are incredibly lame. The garbage that Nick and Phil think so delightful to read... truly embarrassing. At least Devin can come up with an original thought without resorting to 7th-grade-level ranting. Anyway, keep reportin' the insider news. Hold the bullshit.
Comment #8 (Posted by Jolie)
So can I assume his character doesn't die? If people are too upset at seeing his character *pretending* to be dead, how much more upset will they get if the character actually dies? It seems silly to me, and almost as it their sensitivity is affected, not natural.
Comment #9 (Posted by smugbug)
don't dare cut that or any scene. period.
Comment #10 (Posted by oslowe)
huh. That makes very little sense to me. About as little sense as cutting the WTC from Zoolander a week before release... well, okay: maybe less sense than that.
Hey Devin, as a New Yawker, what was yr take on Paramount & Stiller losing the towers from a skyline shot?
Comment #11 (Posted by Teddy Brodansky)
If you are going to take a website to task for using an extra "s" in the headline, I'm going to take you to task for being unprofessional by "taking them to task". I might also add you sound like a petty jerk.
Comment #12 (Posted by Brandon Souter)
I think the scene should be left in.
I also think the petty bitching about other sites should be left out. I'm sick and tired of this site editorialising about other people's reporting of the news instead of just reporting the story at hand.
Who's talking to who about unprofessionalism? Grow up, sounds more like your pissed another site beat you to it than concerned about misleading grammar.
Comment #13 (Posted by Toto Riina's Evil Twin Sister)
Why not cut the third act of "Batman Begins" instead?
Comment #14 (Posted by SciCurious)
Didn't hurt The Crow any to have Lee essentially walking around the film as a Vengeful Zombie. Dark Knight was always going to have moronic test responses though - that torn up face of Ledger's Joker doesn't fit the familiar audience friendly camp Romero/Nicholson pantomime style Joker.
Comment #15 (Posted by an unknown user)
"I'm sick and tired of this site editorialising about other people's reporting of the news instead of just reporting the story at hand"
AMEN!
CHUD really needs to get over itself
Comment #16 (Posted by Frnk)
"If you are going to take a website to task for using an extra "s" in the headline, I'm going to take you to task for being unprofessional by "taking them to task". I might also add you sound like a petty jerk."
There's a difference between a shot and a scene. You should look it up some time.
Comment #17 (Posted by Hocabsurdumst)
All these little bitches need to quit whining about the meta in y'all's coverage. It's actually one of the things that sets this site above the vast majority of the competition.
Also, I have to say that the more I see of Dark Knight's Joker the more I like it. I always thought that the first Spider-Man should have gone for something more like this for the Green Goblin. He would have been waaay more disturbing as some crazy fucker in a dime store mask riding a rocket than a guy in a state-of-the-art armor suit on a high tech glider. Oh well...
Comment #18 (Posted by al starks)
I don't know about the rest of you but Heath Ledger and I go way back. We were like brothers. We knew all of each others little dark secrets. So when he died i felt it was my right to edit his art, invade his perosnal life, and spit in the eye of his family and friends by not minding my own fucking business. Hopefully one day I will find a way to quench this erotic need for attention by displaying even more emotions that just don't exist within me.
Comment #19 (Posted by Bob)
What the holy fuck to the post above mine, duders.
Comment #20 (Posted by benny)
yeah... it's really insensitive to shoot a scene like that half a year before the guy kicks the bucket... really, half a year before the guy is too soon to see Heath Ledger play dead.
fuck any asshole who thinks that this is too much of life imitating art. I'm sure ledger would punch that jackass in the face. from the abyss.
Comment #21 (Posted by FALSE)
Check this out: http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDK_cut-joker-scene-update_4-10-08.html
or:
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20080411_about_those_dark_knight_rumour.html
Comment #22 (Posted by Greg)
People are fucking idiots. He's dead, cutting a scene from a film isn't going to change that.
Comment #23 (Posted by The Dude)
Lets go ahead and never show all the Chris Farley clips where he's faking heart attacks. Let's ask Marc Forster to re-edit Monsters Ball to exclude Ledger's suicide scene. Give me a break. Ledger had great acting chops and by all accounts did a fantastic job (which I firmly believe). It would be doing him a disservice to cut this. He wouldn't want it. I'm quite sure Nolan certainly doesnt want it. Don't do it. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
Comment #24 (Posted by The Dude)
Oh yeah...one more thing. If you can't distinguish a movie from reality you should probably just watch saturday morning cartoons. Anything more and you might seize up and start flopping around on the floor.
Comment #25 (Posted by Tommy)
I've been seeing this story all over the internet & it's stupid. I think that out of respect for the actor they should leave it in, especially if it's a part of the story.
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