YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG, DAY FIVE
- By Devin Faraci
- Published 04/4/2008
- Lists

You and I and all those people out there with a vocal love of film have ruined it for everyone, pimping movies up, falling in love with mediocre films and championing them to near-legendary status. We've embraced turkeys, legitimized borderline movies, and elevated modest films in our favorite franchises above and beyond realistic standards. We've even embraced the films everyone likes, somehow adding a credibility to them that transcends the mainstream. Sacred cows, little flicks, and everything in between. It's time we took a look inward and came clean with 25 movies we think need to be taken down a peg or two.
These are our four categories for this list:
OVERRATED
These guys have had it too easy. Far too easy. Don't believe the insane hype.
OVERBLOWN
Good flicks that have gotten too damn big for their britches.
MISUNDERSTOOD
Asshole, you love this film for all the wrong reasons.
WHAT THE FUCK
Something went horribly wrong here and it's carried over the the fans, who are blinded by shizer.
These guys have had it too easy. Far too easy. Don't believe the insane hype.
OVERBLOWN
Good flicks that have gotten too damn big for their britches.
MISUNDERSTOOD
Asshole, you love this film for all the wrong reasons.
WHAT THE FUCK
Something went horribly wrong here and it's carried over the the fans, who are blinded by shizer.
CHUD's Logline: Hey, remember the 90s? When there was no domestic terrorism, no war,
the economy was going great and you still felt like the whole world
sucked and that you had somehow missed out on all the good stuff? Also,
you had a multiple personality disorder that looked really good with
its shirt off.Its Legacy: A lot of dumb ass frat boys with Fight Club posters on their walls. Actual Fight Clubs. A fucking video game. And probably more than one dude who realized that the reason he keeps getting into fights is because he's scared of how much he wants to suck the other guy's dick.
Why It's Here: There's something I feel that I need to say up front here in the fifth installment of You Got It All Wrong: We like most of these movies. Fight Club is a really good movie, expertly made and viscerally thrilling and exciting. I only say this because there's a vocal segment of people out there who have been defeated by understanding and who think that we're just trashing popular movies in this series (which isn't to say that we won't be trashing popular movies, of course) instead of thinking it through and grasping what 'Overblown' or 'Misunderstood' means.
And Fight Club is the epitome of misunderstood movies. It's a film that grabs the audience and takes them through the first 95% of the story with masterful ease, getting us to identify with some people doing some pretty terrible things. More than identify - we want to be doing those things too. But it's the last 5% of the movie, the last few minutes, where it all comes together to mean something different... and most people seem to just miss it.
Most people get hung up on two things: Tyler Durden as a cool guy and The Twist. The problem is that The Twist reveals that Tyler Durden isn't that cool of a guy but rather a psychotic break in the main character's mind, a projection of who the Narrator wants to be, a persona created to fill the void left by the rejection of material goods. The Narrator's apartment is an Ikea catalog of conformity, and he can't get away from that - he just creates a new, fucked up kind of conformity with the Project Mayhem space monkey cult.
Blinded by The Twist many viewers just sort of stop thinking - that's obviously the intellectual climax of the movie to them. But the truth is that Fight Club is the weirdest coming of age movie of all time, a story about a guy who learns what it means to grow up. At the end of the film the Narrator has to kill the overgrown adolescent in himself in order to accept love and to become a man. The finale of Fight Club is about rejecting Tyler Durden, about rejecting destruction as a way to feel something, and about owning up to your own mistakes. It's not about how much your daddy didn't love you anymore, it's about the man you are now.
But that's not really fun. And when David Fincher changed the ending of Chuck Pahlaniuk's book (which finds the Narrator in a mental institution, the bombs not having gone off but unable to escape the world of Project Mayhem that he's created) to an explosive image that satiated the Tyler Durdens in all of us, it became easy to lose sight of the real meaning of the story. In a way there's an irony here - the audience becomes like the book's version of Project Mayhem, not understanding the final meaning at which their leader arrives; instead of disbanding and figuring it out for themselves, they - like the audience - just keep paying attention to the parts that were cool.
Of course there's a certain frisson to be gotten when looking at the people who misunderstand the movie. People who love the film's anti-consumerism and anti-marketing message will have spent money to hang the advertising for the film on their walls. Supposedly free thinking disaffected kids will be drawn to the Tyler Durden figure, a fascist martinet hiding behind nihilism. And then there's the film's entirely strange psychosexual subtext, which manages to be straight and gay at the same time while weirdly eroticizing intense solipsism. So yeah, the meat heads who tell each other to hit them as hard as they can while at the kegger are missing the entire point of the movie, but hilariously so.
A Moment of Piss: The catchphrases, especially 'His name was Robert Paulsen.' The people saying it in the movie don't get it, and I suspect that neither do you if you're saying it.
These Ain't Chopped Liver Alternatives: If..., The Next Karate Kid
Nick Nunziata Agrees: Devin's got it right, but there's an added component that fuels the reason this film is so vastly misunderstood and the main thing that makes me cringe when one of the "wrong people" identifies this movie as something near and dear to them. Fox had no idea what kind of movie they had on their hands and despite the best efforts and confidence in the vision of David Fincher and most of the producers, a marketing firm came on to steer the public's perception of the movie someplace drastically away from the novel and film's central themes. They "cooled it up", and while some of the images they ultimately used [the bar of soap, regardless of whether it distracts or detracts, is phenomenal] were indeed cool, Fight Club became this lean and mean action film. No doubt if the UFC were as popular in 1999 as it is now, the entire marketing of the film would be spent on advertising time during UFC or Tapout bouts, because as we all know, this film is an underground fighting circuit film.
Sigh.
Fight Club works as a bizarre action/thriller hybrid. The visuals. The aggression. The sex appeal. The chaotic undercurrents. I understand it. In fact, I can enjoy the film superficially. It's one of the rare movies of its ilk that has managed to remain relevant and engaging despite the bizarre hydra-like effect it's has thanks to DVD and one of the oddest developments from failure to cult status I've ever seen. I can enjoy it for that, but the film [to a lesser extent the book, which like many of Palahniuk's becomes less and less powerful after the initial visceral reaction] really comes full force when you factor in, as Devin said, the true meaning of the film and the serious gay overtones. That to me is the greatest thing about the film, sort of like its secret saving grace. It is ripping the very same people who embraced it for the wrong reasons; people who would rather be called a terrorist than a fag, people who carefully create the product of themselves that they then meld into their societal clique, people who attack a problem without grace, people who are so desperate to be a part of something that they'll become whatever works for the moment. In a way, it's brilliant. Most of the people who got scalded by the film's initial failure have come around with a major "I told you so" but they have to roll their eyes at how it came around.
Misunderstood? Totally.
Someone a lot smarter than me should put together a little laminated "Fight Club for Dummies" chart that showcases all of the things about the film and its intentions that would scare the fandom right out of them... or perhaps shift their palate for art and film. Fuck it, more likely they'll just dismiss the movie as more fag propaganda and go to the Crunch Fitness place to exorcise their demons.
Jeremy Smith Disagrees: Chuck Palahniuk's Fight Club met me at a very strange moment in my life. I was a year out of college, working for a misfit division of ABC News International called Worldwide Television News, and living in a banally threatening area of Astoria, Queens. I should've been playing the part of the sullen artist stuck in a meaningless job, but the non-stop wonder of being in New York City - after twenty-four years of Ohio-inflicted boredom - had me all preoccupied and very close to happy. So when I purchased a paperback copy of Fight Club from one of Manhattan's many Barnes & Nobles (vulgarity!), I wasn't exactly seething with resentment at the "IKEA nesting instinct" that was somehow making me less of a man. And when I finished Palahniuk's overheated tome a couple of days later, the only person I wanted to punch in the face was the author. 200 pages of unremitting nihilism is tiring enough, but it might've been tolerable had Palahniuk let up on the glibness for, oh, half a paragraph... anywhere.
Screenwriter Jim Uhls evidently loved the glib; thankfully, Fincher loved cinema more. This didn't keep me from rejecting Fight Club's bogus, Sartre-with-a-smirk text once the buildings came crumbling down to my favorite Pixies song, but there was no denying that Fincher had crafted something formally new. It was immersive, provocative, sexy, repellent and almost persuasive enough in a narrative sense to get away with the excessive recapping that takes up way too much of the third act (yes, I get that the narrator perpetrated all of these acts). But could I accept it as a satire of non-conformist posturing when the entire audience was laughing and cheering along with Tyler Durden's every disgusting transgression?
Every time someone shoots me a link to that noxious blog What Would Tyler Durden Do?, I realize that my feelings about Fincher's Fight Club are still unresolved. Much like A Clockwork Orange, it's so appealing to antisocial idiots that I question whether the satire works at all. Let's wait and see where we are with Fight Club in another twenty years before we start patting ourselves on the back for getting it.
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Comment #1 (Posted by Yuri Wuensch)
Great analysis, guys. Keep it up.
Comment #2 (Posted by leeVSbenway)
I love the cock-splice, other than that I can take or leave FIGHT CLUB. It was an amazing experience seeing it in the theater though...a thrilling night at the movies to say the least.
Comment #3 (Posted by He Hit Me&It Felt Just Like A Kiss)
Excellent all around today, boys. All three of you hit the nail on the head.
Comment #4 (Posted by Jonah)
One of the things I think that could have Fight Club more provocative is the actors. Sure Norton had yet to reveal his pretension and Pitt, well he's always been that guy, but what if their roles were reversed? What if Norton was the anarchist Durden? What if Pitt had been the bored, boring, and unimaginative shell that the "narrator" was? There would have been some texture there of how we dream of being one thing and we are in actuality more sophisticated (sexy) than it, due to our own complexity. I know it would have been a big risk and probably would have done the movie some harm, but would it have made for better art?
Also, Helena Carter, yeah. I think of a friend of mine who said that every triangular relationship is fundamentally homosexual (think of two gibbering goons on Springer arguing over some lackluster p.o.a.)
Comment #5 (Posted by Chris C)
This might be the best series you've done, guys. It reminds me of some of Empire's lists over the years and yet rises above many of them simply because we have a better appreciation for your personalities and tastes after years of reading your work on a daily basis. Congratulation on great work so far (100% agree with the Scarface assessments by Jeremy and Dre) and I'm looking forward to new installments.
Comment #6 (Posted by messi)
Does anyone like Devin in real life. he seems so boring and...pathetic.
Comment #7 (Posted by an unknown user)
Apparently you didn't get it either. As David Fincher said, "A lot of people have criticized the film for 'fasciest overtones'. They weren't fascists. They weren't smart enough to be fascists." Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts NATION and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Characterized by CORPORATE control or influence of government.
Comment #8 (Posted by Naturals Lover)
Of course Devin and Nick are correct in their analysis of the film. I'm not hung up on Tyler or The Twist. My problem with Fight Club has always been with the slick presentation. That is the very reason why it inspires such devotion in such utter tools. When a film gives you so much of that slick polish, it only accentuates that top layer of meaning- the "tough guy" thing that all the jerks glom on to. From that point of view, I've always disliked Fight Club because it seems to be something it's not, a bit of cinematic misdirection that just feels like a lie.
Good series so far.
Comment #9 (Posted by an unknown user)
None of these reviews really seem to disagree. They all concede that the film is misunderstood by it's core audience, which would be the misunderstanding part of the deal, but mostly praise the films strengths, though Devin dismisses some of Fincher's directoral decisions. I for one, loved Fincher's direction but think the movie is lame and stupid. I wrote deeper work when I was in middle school.
Comment #10 (Posted by matt)
i get it. 2 nights, 2 screenings. Bought and devoured the book the day after. A tome to be reckoned with; not a lean paragraph to be found. The most blissfully compact, yet crammed book in existence (from memory - 190 odd pages, with more in it than the movie). Sorry, Beaks, but when you cram that many ideas into such a small space, nihilsm may result but it's not for nothing. And Devin, I always thought the museum came down and then he awoke in the asylum. But yes, the nightmare of your actions will always come to haunt you. I wish everyone would read the book, but given a long enough timeline the survival rate of fuckwits who misunderstand this movie tends to zero.
Comment #11 (Posted by Eren)
Wow Devin. You like, get that Fight Club is like, not about fighting. Man, it's like, the very people the movie eschews are the ones who think it's cool! The fools!
The fuck, come on man.
I don't know anyone who doesn't know that, and I don't exactly run with the Mensa crowd. Sure, there are meatheads who don't get the subtext. That's true of The Matrix, or any and all movies with anything manly and dumb in it.
I like Fight Club, but you must have been half-tarded ten years ago if you thought it was a tough thing for the average person to get. I sat there at Freddie's pizza and discussed it with my fellow morons and we all liked it and got it. Did I see the twist coming? No. Did I think the movie was rooting for Tyler Durden until the end? Yes. But by the time we were walking out of the theater, there was no one who didn't get it: Tyler Durden was this guy's deepest repression born out, and he was not cool as the movie treated him, but rather as lame as an Ikea shopping spree. His anti-commercialism shit was a straw man, Jack's real enemy was his own psychoses. That's just not tough to get.
I have a feeling you've actually sat down and discussed this movie with one of "those" people who didn't get it roughly zero times, and have imaginatively invented many conversations with clueless phantom fans of Tyler Durden wholeheartedly, oblivious to the film's true message. I don't think many of those people actually exist, I just think pretentious film fans like to tell each other that they exist somewhere out there, and congratulate each other for not being one of them.
Come on guys...this is a great idea for a series. But step it up a notch. Next are you going to blow our minds with the theory that Top Gun has a gay subtext? It's the aughts, and you're slipping.
Comment #12 (Posted by -s:g:c-)
This is a great series. Very cool idea. And FINALLY someone putting on "paper" what I've been feeling for years about perceptions of Fight Club.
Well done gentlemen.
Well done.
Comment #13 (Posted by Meatloaf's Saggy Tits)
In the book, don't they try to destroy art galleries at the end, rather than the credit companies of the film? I always found that a rather weird switch. The concept of "destroying beauty" was well established and full of philosophical quandaries but erasing everybody's credit history makes Project Mayhem out to be anarchist Robin Hoods.
Comment #14 (Posted by KurtQuake)
Yeah... I hate Tim Burton too.
Comment #15 (Posted by jay)
good review, been enjoying the series so far. It's been an eye-opener at time too.
personally I am waiting for them to go after Boondocks Saints....and all the Hot Topic merchandise they have spawned. sigh
Comment #16 (Posted by IgiveMeatHead)
I want you to suck my dick as hard as you can.
Comment #17 (Posted by jib)
Again, you Chud clowns need to get off your fucking high-horse. I don't know what kind retards you fraternize with to get this assumption of a simpleton's assessment of Fight Club, but no one I know (who's actually SEEN the movie) takes it for anything approaching what you high-fluting ego-mongers accuse them of. IOW, no, you're not smarter or more knowledgeable than the average schmo - if anything, you're dumber because (as George W does) you assume you're the smartest guy in class, when you're actually the remedial student in an honors class.
Comment #18 (Posted by Hidden_7)
I think the switch to credit card companies was to show how much of a facade Project Mayhem's ideology really was. Destroy art, while childish has "meaning." It's a bullshit meaning, but hey there it is. Erasing everyone's debt? That's just greed. It's not anti-consumerism it's pro-consumerism, but anti-paying for stuff. Railing against authority because it is authority, which is exactly as dumb as supporting authority because it is authority.
Also, I think the change from him not winding up in the mental institution was to tone down the nihilism just a bit. The book is rather oppresively nihilistic, as he rejects Tyler, but it ultimately comes to him being unable to man up to his transgressions; being commited to a mental institution is kind of the ultimate exit strategy.
Hell, the whole movie/book (and I may not be Getting It) kind of seems to the dichotomy of Nihilism versus Existentialism. Ok, daddy doesn't like you, God isn't interested, you aren't getting your meaning from there, ok what now? Admit that nothing means anything and resign yourself to the cult of your own personality, or try to cobble something worthwhile out of life, try to inject some real meaning in it.
Comment #19 (Posted by Lucas)
This is a great idea. I definitely enjoy the dialectical format.
Comment #20 (Posted by Ty Guy)
Yeah, I'm sorry, but Devin's analysis is rather simple, and I'm not sure who wouldn't be able to pick up on it while watching the movie.
Of course, I've never met anyone who empathizes with Tyler Durden and hangs Fight Club posters on their wall, either...and I'm pretty sure that it's an invented subsection of the population.
Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed this feature incredibly, and I think you are all great writers.
But this one is a complete miss.
Comment #21 (Posted by Ben)
A lot of this review sounds like the scrawny geeky goth guy pointing at the jocks or cool kids and saying "What a bunch of fags, they're such fags and they don't even know it."
Comment #22 (Posted by zach)
You guys have never seen frat boys and other idiots with Fight Club posters, or heard them going off about it for all the wrong reasons? Lucky you, because for the last nine years I can't count how many of them I've met. Nick and Devin aint bullshitting on this one, those people exist. In large numbers.
Comment #23 (Posted by radar)
I think you guys are missing what Jeremy seems to be hinting at: the movie was meant to be both a refutation of Durden's nihilism and an embellishment of it. Sure, he comes clean with himself at the end and 'grows up', as Devin puts it. But that doesn't mean Fincher didn't want us to love every minute of Durden's escapades.
And Durden's story isn't about consummerism...its about coming to terms with one's masculinity--the primitive desire for violence, the hidden homoeroticism, the anarchic impulses. At the end, Durden's not just grown up, he's grown up to be a man.
Comment #24 (Posted by RCA)
Apparently you all have already forgotten rules one and two....
Comment #25 (Posted by Jacob)
Great work, guys. And jay's right...Boondocks Saints needs to be up there under "WHAT THE FUCK?"
Comment #26 (Posted by Aethyrr)
This one, and I mean this *entry*, is the best one so far
Comment #27 (Posted by Tennyson E. Stead)
Great piece! This conversation reminds me of how the satire on Josie and the Pussycats worked... Lambasting how sex sells product, but then, why exactly did you buy the ticket?
Comment #28 (Posted by fireflyfellow)
Um, nice analysis. In other news, grass is green and water's wet.
Comment #29 (Posted by Keyan)
Nobody's reading this far into the comments....
Anyhow, in defense of the CHUD staff, fuck you talk-backers who are pretending that the meatheads that didn't get this movie don't exist. You're the ones that are full of it. These aren't some BS creation by the staff here to seem lofty. I've dealt with these people. I've partied with them and tried to strike up a conversation about the movie and almost walked away in tears, fearing that such people are allowed to exist AND reproduce. I don't know what small circles you guys are walking in, but there's all kinds of people out there, and yes, many of them are stupid enough to see this movie that way. And guess what? There are even people who wanted the brain-erasing operation from Eternal Sunshine. I have been told this, expressly. "Boy, I wish I could erase some of my past relationships!" I'm not shitting you. Many people see what they want to see here, just like you're trying to see a world without these folks so you can take a swipe at the writers here.
Comment #30 (Posted by Stachew)
It seems that Scarface and Fight Club are both loved and therefore misunderstood for the same reasons. When a film spends 95% of the plot glorifying a lifestyle and associating it with distracting imagery and ideas only to turn it on it (and the audience) on it's ear, it's no wonder why the films subsequent fanbase miss the mark.
Comment #31 (Posted by moviemenace)
The problem with "Fight Club" is not the twist or the last few minutes; it's Project Mayhem. Once that storyline kicks in, it is no longer a story about two characters, or struggling against materialism, or manning up. It loses a lot of meaning, and it dumbs down the rest of the story. Now, I haven't read the novel but I can see this story shift working in novel form, where the anarchy angles has a chance to breathe and play-out. In the film, it feels jammed in, changing the story arc altogether. The movie should have never become about a group of men fighting off there temptation to fuck each other by reeking havoc, but about a man fighting off his own demons and finding balance.
Comment #32 (Posted by Ubermensch)
Fuck. Two days in a row I have to give Devin some love. Could you please be full of shit again by Monday? It feels wrong not pointing out that you're an asshole every day.
Comment #33 (Posted by arteq)
a movie is a visceral experience for me... you, like the movie students i went to school with at nyu are simply pauline kael's in reverse drag... those who refer to movies as film, disgust me... film goes in the camera, a movie is what comes out... you, so hung up on finding gay themes in movies makes me believe that you question your own masculinity... you are not fanboys, you are fanfags...
Comment #34 (Posted by Johnny Daywalker)
This is the best one yet and I have a deep man love for Beaks for expressing exactly what bothers me about Fight Club. If anything in film speaks to the utter arrogant ignorance that is the 20's and 30's at the end of the 20th century (and the beginning of the 21st now) its this one. As I left the theater dissapointed in this movie plenty were walking out pumped and giddy and about what? Great acting and filmmaking? Not at all they loved the rebellious nature of Durden, Marla etc. If Fincher stylized Romper Stomper (He wouldn't of course) like this movie many of the ignorant (don't take umbrage with that unless you are what Devin described) would hate it. Seriously fuck this movie.
Comment #35 (Posted by trav)
Whether people agree or not, the number of comments you guys are getting with this series means it's good. It's funny too how many people who frequent the site love riding Devin's ass...dorks. I'm enjoying it, keep up the good work as always!
Comment #36 (Posted by gmsc)
You're right. There was no domestic terrorism in the 1990s. Someone please tell Ted Kaczynski, the Army of God, Timothy McVeigh and the 1993 World Trade Center bombers they're all free to go, and we hope they accept our apologies for the misunderstanding.
Comment #37 (Posted by Tom)
For what it's worth
I went to high school in an urban area and everyone that saw this movie thought Brad Pitt was a ghost.EVERYONE.
Comment #38 (Posted by Rick Roll)
gmsc, don't be a fucking moron. Terrorism didn't command nearly the degree of attention and fear in the US before 9/11 as it has since. Devin may have overstated the point, but the meaning is clear.
Comment #39 (Posted by an unknown user)
Technically one of the most visceral experiences I ever had. Everything sfx, music, cast, etc. just simply enjoyable.
The story was something that litterally I had to watch over and over in that you had that feeling there's more than meets the eye. Sure the anti-consumerist attitudes were intreging. There had been nothing like it before. However, looking at it over and over, in my case 20 or so times which make me wonder to all those Limp Bizkit days, it dawned on me what it was all about.
I must say thank you Devin, Nick and Jeremy for clearing the air in a way that all these hot topic kids could understand and excelent analyisis.
Comment #40 (Posted by Simmonsfield)
I guess you all didn't start your own fight clubs?
Wild experience, you should try it once.
Comment #41 (Posted by masterbrocksamson)
sigh...
Comment #42 (Posted by Andrew)
I feel I must point out the apparently glossed-over fact that Tyler Durden does not die at the end of "Fight Club." Just before the credits roll, a close-up of a penis can be seen ever so briefly on the screen. The meaning, of course, is that the satirical explanation in the last few minutes of the film has been rendered null, that Durden's cynical, pseudo-nihilistic attitude is the only apropos explanation. Durden (and therefore The Narrator) hasn't changed. No one grew up. The fact that Durden is still out there splicing single frames of pornography into feature films is proof that the denial of the cynical attitude one has cultivated over the course of the first 95% of the film is a denial of the reality that we're all as hopeless as the protagonist became.
Comment #43 (Posted by The Green Gobbler)
Who gives a fuck if some folks watched the film and soaked it in as pure entertainment? These articles are getting more condescending by the day. It's just like you pussies to knock someone down for just saying, "that movie kicked ass." The funny thing is your brilliant analysis of Fincher's flick didn't require you to dictate it to us. Film is meant for interpretation. If some people wanted to turn their brains off... good for them. That's the beauty of 'Fight Club', you can either just watch it wide-eyed and munch your popcorn, or you can brood about it and make it your talking point when you want to have some douche-bag dialogue about the downfall of society. Man, I better go re-watch this and break it down scene by scene Faraci-style, only then I could ponder moving out of my mom's basement and get a girlfriend.
Comment #44 (Posted by williamblake)
i way this movie with a friend on it's opening weekend at 7pm on that Saturday and there were 2 other people in there besides us. then i was working at blockbuster when it came out and no one was renting it at first. about 2 - 2 1/2 months after it hit shelves it got rented over and over and started to get really over saturated, along the lines of Donnie Darko, Boondock Saints and Austin Powers. I personally thinks it's funny that people forget that Fight CLub didn't perform well in the theatres
Comment #45 (Posted by ShutTheFuckUp)
I can't stand internet geeks who think their opinion is so important that they post articles like this. Shut the fuck up man. You're worse then some fratboy with a "Fight Club" poster. Intelligent people don't give a fuck about your stupid little opinion. You're not important. Shut the fuck up.
Comment #46 (Posted by an unknown user)
You want proof that Fight Club is misunderstood...?
How about the comparisons that far too many people have made between it and Never Back Down...
Comment #47 (Posted by alfie)
spot on! I have heard people talking about never back down as being "like the new fight club". I think that kind of proves the point of this article.
And whats with all the people who are reading each and everyone of these items only to then post about how lame it it is and how much bullshit devin/nick etc talk?
No one forces you to read them.
This one has been the best one so far if you ask me. I remember when fight club came out and guys I knew in college were starting real fight clubs and they fucking worshipped durden. It was sad and pathetic. They did everything devin talks about here. Hate away on the devin all you want but don;t try to pretend the people devin is directing this article too don;t exist because you all know they do. You just want to call devin a wanker but if you want to do that don't lie to justify it. you know he is right about this one so suck it up and move on.
Comment #48 (Posted by broham)
<i>Hey, remember the 90s? When there was no domestic terrorism, no war, the economy was going great and you still felt like the whole world sucked and that you had somehow missed out on all the good stuff?</i>
I guess you weren't there for the first Desert War? Remember? 1990? Then the abortion clinic bombings, plus Timothy McVeigh. Then there were all the micro-recessions and ultimately the crashes of the late 90's which led to the dot-com bust.
If you're going to write about how much smarter you are than everyone else when it comes to movies, at least try starting it of sounding like you have an education past high school.
Comment #49 (Posted by Darkcity)
Wow that was fucking patronising.
Comment #50 (Posted by yo yo yo)
ya, that wuz patronizing. tho, if Ebert didn't get it, i guess a bunch o morons must not of got it 2. even tho i agree wit dis 1, this iz still tha worst feature eva. chud sucks in tha exact opposite way AICN sucks, but jus as hard
Comment #51 (Posted by CUNT)
Your articles would make much more sense, and have far greater value if you spoke in fucking English and not " .............fascist martinet hiding behind nihilism. And then there's the film's entirely strange psychosexual subtext, which manages to be straight and gay at the same time while weirdly eroticizing intense solipsism."
What the fuck?
Cunts
Comment #52 (Posted by Jason)
I'm sure there are people this is true about. However, I'm sick and tired of movie snob critics (like Devin) thinking they and their elite group of "in the know" types are the only ones that gets it and average male movie watcher thinks "huh hu.....they are fightin...thas cool".
Comment #53 (Posted by Mark)
the message behind fight club is simply this (and chuck P has said this himself):
people's lives are empty because they are not living for something greater than themselves. whatever outlets that allowed people to truly live fulfilled lives in the past (church, nation, etc.) are no longer tangible to "Jack"'s generation. so in order for them to truly fulfill their lives and to alleviate the emptiness that gnaws at them, they decide to fight. the only thing chuck p is trying to say, in this regard, is whether it be fighting, gardening or whatever you like, just choose something to occupy the emptiness naturally residing within idle humans, because the Ikea catalog just won't cut it.
tyler only becomes a flawed character when he decides to shake up that whole idea, and says instead of living for something greater to fulfill himself yourself an individual, eliminate the idea of individuality itself. he does this in order to further his overblown ideas of anti-consumerism; as if consumerism were causing the problem of emptiness itself. tyler is just taking a basically correct philosophy and pushing it to extremism.
chud articles are written by nerdy, sexually repressed, hentai addicts, and are only ever taken seriously by nerdy, sexually repressed, hentai addicts...

