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THE DEVIN'S ADVOCATE: THEY WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE
- By Devin Faraci
- Published 02/7/2008
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If you are a journalist in Washington and you ask a question of a politician that they do not want to answer, they will attempt to dance around the truth while not telling it. They will make an effort to not be caught blatantly lying on the record. You don't get that in Hollywood. Imagine that: the world of politics has more truth to go around than the world of entertainment.Drew McWeeny dropped some friendly confrontation on me over at David Poland's The Hot Blog. He questions my admittedly strident attitude about the Heath Ledger toxicology report. Here's what he said:
And Devin... this isn't a knock or anything, but when did you guys get into the gossip business? I mean, your editorial yesterday wasn't necessarily off-base, but do you guys normally write about this sort of fame-vulture bullshit? And if not, why this particular story? And why continue to run around making this point so stridently? Point made. He took a lot of drugs, and that's what killed him. I'm just not sure you want to keep hammering it over and over like this unless there's a particular point to it. It's starting to feel a little overemphatic.
Drew's right. This story has hit me in a particularly weird place - not one where I'm sensitive about drug use or ODs or where I'm a Heath hater or something. It's the part of me that has been worn down by the sheer amount of untruth bandied about in Hollywood.
Drew knows what it's like. Just a couple of months ago Aint It Cool ran a categorical denial from Peter Jackson that The Hobbit was moving forward. Then a few weeks later it was in all the trades: The Hobbit was happening at New Line with Peter Jackson producing. That deal didn't magically appear in the weeks between the denial and the announcement; Jackson, or a spokesperson, flagrantly lied to Aint It Cool. And as shitty as that was for AICN, it was even shittier for the guy who broke the story, some low-level blogger who usually just writes about 3D movies. That guy was the butt of a lot of internet snark after that denial, but he was right all along.
I'm frustrated on a regular basis by the lies that come from the people behind Terminator Salvation in regards to the size of John Connor's role in the current (pre-strike) script, although they at least make more of an effort to dance as opposed to just being flat out untrue. The latest was McG saying that John Connor is 'a major player' - which doesn't speak to the actual size of the role, of course. The Wizard is a major player in The Wizard of Oz - motherfucker's the title character! - but I don't think he could be counted as a lead by any stretch of the imagination. It's possible that once the strike ends the plan is to beef up John Connor's role, but I am 100% positive and certain that, in terms of screen time, he is a minor character in the latest draft. But in the end who gets believed - the producers and director, who are not being truthful, or some guy writing for a site named after a cheesy 80s horror film?
The lies permeate every aspect of the business. Journalists and fans aren't the only ones getting a face full of bullshit - ask Art Buchwald how the studios lie endlessly about the budgets and profits of their movies. Studios lie about weekend grosses so that Monday morning reports are a little more positive. I get lied to by publicists on an almost weekly basis, and it would be more often if I talked to some of them more often. Taking anything said to you in this town at face value is just completely stupid.
This isn't the outcry of a naive fool. It's more like I'm having my own little Howard Beale moment here. Although we all know how he ended up. I'm not stupid, and I know that calling attention to the whitewashing of Ledger's death (hey, John Belushi died accidentally too, but that's not how we talk about it, is it? That's another aspect of the toxicology report that bugs me, the way some people want to pretend that Ledger wasn't abusing the pills that killed him because their own weird moral topography makes someone who ODs getting high into a Bad Person) is probably just making people who take the lives of celebrities too personally get annoyed with me. Anybody involved in Hollywood, even someone as marginally connected as I am, eats their share of shit. Sometimes it's the littlest teaspoonful that makes you gag, though.
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Comments
Comment #1 (Posted by an unknown user)
I like this part better. Why the hell is Hollywood so fucked up with misinformation? Any good books on the subject?
Comment #2 (Posted by misquamacus)
Serpentine, Shel! Serpentine!
Comment #3 (Posted by shoopdawoop)
You know how "marginally connected" you are to hollywood? You don't even fucking matter. You're just another fat ass nerd that likes telling people what they like is wrong if it differs with your views.
You are a GIANT douchebag. And the worst kind too. The bitter fat ass nerd that won't be any better than writing on a internet movie site.
God, I loved your rant about Transformer cartoon fans. Just shows you were always the fat kid in school we always picked on and that chip will never be knocked off your shoulder.
Don't worry. I'm sure the board lemmings will stroke your ego with "GREAT ARTICLE!" or "MAN YOU SAID IT ALL". So don't cry.
Comment #4 (Posted by Angry Mean Panda)
Yep. People, especially people in positions of power, lie. You really should consider changing the name of your column to "Master of the Obvious". Or maybe "For all my blustering about how much I've read and how many drugs I've done, I'm hopelessly naive about the way the world works." Either one of those would be good.
Comment #5 (Posted by Krypto the Wonderhound)
I'm astonished to learn that international corporations putting together multi-million dollar movie packages prefer to make major news announcements when they're ready, rather than letting self-important internet "spies" spill the beans early for no reason other than to feel more important. How dare New Line lie to guys on the internet? My worldview reels from your bold whistleblowing.
Comment #6 (Posted by messi)
What's this got to do with Rollins?
Comment #7 (Posted by Sankofa)
Their common bond is a Black Flag tattoo.
Comment #8 (Posted by MyWalkingDead)
"What's this got to do with Rollins?"
You never heard the Rollins band track "Liar"? - early 90's
Comment #9 (Posted by RyanC)
shoopdawoop, it's pretty clear that you've got a problem with Devin in general and you're just using this as an excuse to take a swipe at him. Is there some jealousy involved? I think so. Because what kind of a loser gets so emotional about an article like this one?
Comment #10 (Posted by jaworsky)
I really don't see how you could expect Jackson to comment on the deal before it's gone through. From a business point of view, making any comment other than what he made would be hugely inappropriate. But yeah, as far as what's in a script (ie. Terminator Salvation) - the lying is total bullshit.
Comment #11 (Posted by Gosey)
Gosh, a little piece of Devin's optimism about the world just got killed and replaced by cynicism, and he chose to share it with us in his very own column where he can write about whatever the hell he wants to and everyone who reads it does so by choice; let's all kick him in the nuts and laugh at him for it. That makes sense.
Comment #12 (Posted by an unknown user)
You make CHUD an uglier place.
Comment #13 (Posted by Three Oranges)
"own weird moral topography makes someone who ODs getting high into a Bad Person"
You don't think that perhaps someone with a child and all the responsibilities that go with it who destroys himself in the pursuit of selfish physical pleasure might constitute a "Bad Person?"
Oh, I forgot. The only bad people are Republicans.
Comment #14 (Posted by an unknown user)
Shoopdawoop is a wise man. You hate Hollywood because Hollywood hated you first.
Comment #15 (Posted by unknown user)
"But yeah, as far as what's in a script (ie. Terminator Salvation) - the lying is total bullshit."
Yes, studios should be forced to confirm leaked spoilers from stolen scripts. That would be the professional thing to do. And you wonder why websites still get treated like a red-headed stepchild by Hollywood...
Comment #16 (Posted by an unknown user)
these talkbacks are fucking poison for this site. so annoying.
Comment #17 (Posted by Dan)
It seems as if you may be making a mountain out of a molehill. The Hollywood "establishment" (if there is such a monolithic entity to begin with) isn't going to be straightforward because that could effect their bottom line. Their business depends upon "spin," and they're not going to change that policy because a few internet reporters want to know the exact moment when Peter Jackson seals the deal on the Hobbit films (a fact which really doesn't matter in the end anyhow).
I think you guys need to just chill out a bit. Your most interesting content has nothing to do with breaking huge stories based upon insider knowledge. I, for one, return to CHUD for the reviews, interviews, and commentary (although I disagree with this particular piece).
Comment #18 (Posted by Peter Nichol)
All overdoses are accidental! That's kind of implicit. The difference is Heath was medicating himself (a bad idea) and Belushi was getting high.
Comment #19 (Posted by Mr DynaMic)
Its funny how total anonimity allows a person to belittle this article with little to no substantiation. If you're going to comment with bias, at least have the balls to back it up. For that reason, perhaps the talkbacks are poison.
Comment #20 (Posted by Omar Sharif)
Someone called "Mr DynaMic" is anonymously belittling people for anonymously belittling an article? Hmm. Good thing I'm using my real name, since my comment now has validity. Unlike Devin's assertion that he REALLY knows what Heath Ledger was doing, spin be damned. Which is what Mori was criticising. Which is what this sudden (and pointless) diversion into Hollywood ethics is trying to distract from.
Comment #21 (Posted by Tennyson)
You know, I think what you're talking about here is actually symptomatic of a larger issue. I've worked exclusively in indepedent film since I've gotten out here, and been blessed with people who do what they say they are going to do, but by and large our country has centered itself around bureaucracy. This oges way beyond film. The way to stay secure in a bureaucracy is to make other people's jobs painless, while at least seeming productive. The trouble is, any really good idea is going to chaff someone's nuts, somehow or other. So how do you seem productive, when your job, at least to a point, is to avoid productivity? It's a mess. Now find me a bureaucracy more atrophied by complacency than a major motion picture studio. I'd love to see Terry Gilliam make a narrative film about the filmmaking process.
Comment #22 (Posted by AnimalStructure)
Moriarty is a douchebag of the highest order. Please don't listen to him when he says anything. The guy is so clueless. Since when do they run gossip? Uh, gee, every fucking day if you ask me! And how come no one is talking about Roger Avary KILLING someone because he was driving drunk? Is that gossip? Is it gossip when it is fact?
Comment #23 (Posted by TS)
Wouldn't it be easier if all the young stars going to die, did it in a better PR way, like say a car accident or a plane crash?
I know anymore when I hear of some celebrity dying I think 'God I hope it wasn't drugs'
because I know we'll be stuck hearing about it for the next 'ever
Comment #24 (Posted by an unknown user)
Hey Devin, news sources lie all the time. To everyone. Even to you (*GASP*) . Let that out-of-control ego of yours get accustomed to the notion. Maybe eat some whole pies.
Comment #25 (Posted by P)
I don't care what industry/profession you're talking about, the more money that's involved, the more lies there will be. Oh, and Devin's a massive tool.
Comment #26 (Posted by AnimalStructure)
Web critics are notorious for thinking they are FAR more important and connected than they are. They SWEAR their reviews will hurt or help a movie's B.O. They are, to put it mildly, clueless. Studios only care about sites like this insofar as they can manipualte these sites with set visits and free swag. It's all bullshit.
Comment #27 (Posted by Garth)
Yeah, fuck those Hollywood assholes who don't want all of the plot points of their movies known before the movie even goes in front of cameras.
Assholes, don't you know that Devin Faraci's got some made up job to do and that other people on the internets will think he's a loser if a report is denied?
You are such a fucking douche, Devin, it's not even funny.
Comment #28 (Posted by Ruth Gordon)
For the record, Devin is not a "fat ass nerd". He's big-boned.

